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Old 09-27-2017, 09:49 AM
 
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The reasons I would shy away from this property (if I was looking for a large property), based on your answer:


1: It's FAR from everything. If I was a commuter but still wanted a lot of land (for my hobby farm or whatever) so far inland, I'd probably move somewhere in the Midwest or Mountain West where I could get that much acerage closer to a major city and source of employment for the same or less money plus lower fuel costs for the required large/capable vehicles I'd need.
2. Really really far from the beach.
3. I'd pretty much have to be a home-schooler, since the local schools are terrible and I'd be putting my kids on a LOOOONG bus ride or driving FAR even to get them to those schools. That means we need at least one Stay-At-Home-Parnet, and being so far from everything means that the kids will rarely leave the ranch. So I'd have to want my kids to grow up VERY cloistered.
4. The snow sounds nice, but I'd assume we'd have to deal with 110+ degree heat during the summer months, santa anna winds, and a long fire season. The fire issue is huge, since we'd be dependent on luck to keep the ranch from burning. If you're close to a major road and the land is flat and easy to clear, maybe that's less of an issue. However, there are other places in the country where you can own a much larger parcel of land and not have to deal with a yearly drought and months of wildfire dangers. I don't like the idea of having to evacuate my family every few years, let alone the animals too. Or the heartbreak of leaving them behind.
5. The house is too small and the granny flat is too big. If I'm going to live in the middle of nowhere, I'd want big square footage in the main house, and little to none in the second house. It would be really hard to get a renter into anything that far out of town, and even harder to get a family, or multiple tenants to rent a 2+2. As for putting family in the other house; first, I've gotta want my parents or in-laws that close, then, If the parents aren't into ranch life, they'd probably hate it. If they are ranchers, they probably own their own land, and I'd be better served just moving onto their land and building new with the money saved.
6. Yes. Very special. Or maybe a commercial interest, like someone wanting to start up a grow operation, organic farm, or something. I would suggest you cast a HUGE advertising net and not just rely on a traditional realtor, who will probably shelve your property unless a very specific buyer walks into their office.
7. Sounds beautiful. Also fire and high utility costs. It sounds great to walk out your door and see the milky way. From the coast, we need to drive 10-to-15 minutes behind the first or second set of hills to stargaze and be able to see the milky way.
8. 20 minutes to town and 20 minutes just to get to the freeway. Ugh.
9. Those houses are going to be your competition and drop prices, increasing supply in an area of already-low demand. The Casino could raise demand once it starts generating jobs and firing the local business scene, but thats years out if they haven't even broken ground yet.


I don't think lowering your price is going to move the needle much on interest in your place. My advice would be to invest in advertising. Do some research on commercial interests, religious types/groups, holistic retreat types, etc. that might like your place. Then get on internet forums and post flyers in brick-and-mortar places where those types hang out.
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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The reasons I would shy away from this property (if I was looking for a large property), based on your answer:



5. The house is too small and the granny flat is too big. If I'm going to live in the middle of nowhere, I'd want big square footage in the main house, and little to none in the second house. It would be really hard to get a renter into anything that far out of town, and even harder to get a family, or multiple tenants to rent a 2+2. As for putting family in the other house; first, I've gotta want my parents or in-laws that close, then, If the parents aren't into ranch life, they'd probably hate it. If they are ranchers, they probably own their own land, and I'd be better served just moving onto their land and building new with the money saved.
I didn't see where the square footage was offered. All I saw was a 3 bed 2 bath main home and a 2 bed 2 bath granny flat. What we don't know is the square feet of each.
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Old 09-29-2017, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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Not many 10 acre places listed in the Frazier park area and only one with a second home on site. If the one I saw was the OP's home I am thinking it is a beautiful property. Nice home. Not in my price range though. Also the commute time to work is over an hour and a half. Ideal if I was making more money writing then working in a hospital. Although we have some people that do make the commute from Bakersfield and that is even further. They normally work three 12 hour shifts and stay in the area then head back to Bakersfield.

My ideal place would be an acre in a more developed area, say Pine Mountain Club, and a home that cost a lot less than what our home would sell for. Then making a crazy commute might be a benefit, although I love my 15 minute door to door commute now.
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Old 09-29-2017, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Sandpoint, Idaho
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The reasons I would shy away from this property (if I was looking for a large property), based on your answer:


1: It's FAR from everything. If I was a commuter but still wanted a lot of land (for my hobby farm or whatever) so far inland, I'd probably move somewhere in the Midwest or Mountain West where I could get that much acerage closer to a major city and source of employment for the same or less money plus lower fuel costs for the required large/capable vehicles I'd need.
2. Really really far from the beach.
3. I'd pretty much have to be a home-schooler, since the local schools are terrible and I'd be putting my kids on a LOOOONG bus ride or driving FAR even to get them to those schools. That means we need at least one Stay-At-Home-Parnet, and being so far from everything means that the kids will rarely leave the ranch. So I'd have to want my kids to grow up VERY cloistered.
4. The snow sounds nice, but I'd assume we'd have to deal with 110+ degree heat during the summer months, santa anna winds, and a long fire season. The fire issue is huge, since we'd be dependent on luck to keep the ranch from burning. If you're close to a major road and the land is flat and easy to clear, maybe that's less of an issue. However, there are other places in the country where you can own a much larger parcel of land and not have to deal with a yearly drought and months of wildfire dangers. I don't like the idea of having to evacuate my family every few years, let alone the animals too. Or the heartbreak of leaving them behind.
5. The house is too small and the granny flat is too big. If I'm going to live in the middle of nowhere, I'd want big square footage in the main house, and little to none in the second house. It would be really hard to get a renter into anything that far out of town, and even harder to get a family, or multiple tenants to rent a 2+2. As for putting family in the other house; first, I've gotta want my parents or in-laws that close, then, If the parents aren't into ranch life, they'd probably hate it. If they are ranchers, they probably own their own land, and I'd be better served just moving onto their land and building new with the money saved.
6. Yes. Very special. Or maybe a commercial interest, like someone wanting to start up a grow operation, organic farm, or something. I would suggest you cast a HUGE advertising net and not just rely on a traditional realtor, who will probably shelve your property unless a very specific buyer walks into their office.
7. Sounds beautiful. Also fire and high utility costs. It sounds great to walk out your door and see the milky way. From the coast, we need to drive 10-to-15 minutes behind the first or second set of hills to stargaze and be able to see the milky way.
8. 20 minutes to town and 20 minutes just to get to the freeway. Ugh.
9. Those houses are going to be your competition and drop prices, increasing supply in an area of already-low demand. The Casino could raise demand once it starts generating jobs and firing the local business scene, but thats years out if they haven't even broken ground yet.


I don't think lowering your price is going to move the needle much on interest in your place. My advice would be to invest in advertising. Do some research on commercial interests, religious types/groups, holistic retreat types, etc. that might like your place. Then get on internet forums and post flyers in brick-and-mortar places where those types hang out.
very sound observations.
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