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Old 03-27-2014, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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well, each to his own i guess. if you're attracted to wastelands i guess it can be interesting.

this is basically sweden divided in three parts:

götaland away the immediate coast and scania


svealand/southern norrland


northern norrland


anyway, this is going OT.

I think it would be very nice to ride along the road in all those areas on a nice sunny summer day. Probably smells real nice as well. Beauty is subjective.
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Old 03-27-2014, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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ah, that's more like it. just like kiruna. the only drawback are those horrendous (dwarfbirches?)

That looks nice.
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Old 03-27-2014, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Finland
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ah, that's more like it. just like kiruna. the only drawback are those horrendous (dwarfbirches?)
Mountain birch. The dwarf birch looks more like a strawberry plant:


I think they're ugly as hell as well, but better than nothing. I google-drove a couple of days ago from Nordkapp to Rovaniemi, and those ugly-ass birches were a pleasant sight after the tundra.


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This link says 73% of Finland's forests are naturally regnerated rather than planted. 90% for France. Neither has any "primary forest", which we'd call old-growth forest (never cut down). Breakdown for the US: 67% naturally regnerated, 8% planted, 25% primary, the last number sounds too high.

Of the Southeast US, they had a lot cut down but a lot of regrowth. Logging then regrowth. There's not much logging here, only small-scale stuff except for Maine.
Yes, in theory maybe. The "cut one plant one" policy is rather old in Finland, so most of the forests have regenerated once or twice. But they still cut many unwanted trees that spread, mostly alder, maple and rowan. Maybe 'manicured' forest would be a better term.

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Nice vid. The road markings remind me of the USA. Maybe very similar landscapes can be found in Kentucky or somewhere else to the northeast.

In France, the Landes "forest" is basically a 10,000 km² tree farm:
https://maps.google.fr/maps?q=labouh...15.57,,0,14.47
https://maps.google.fr/maps?q=labouh...210.64,,0,12.4

But in most other forested areas, even if the situation is less extreme, trees are cut way before they reach their mature size. Forest farms are everywhere:
https://maps.google.fr/maps?q=semout...30.31,,0,13.51

Mature size (I guess?):
https://maps.google.fr/maps?q=bellem...352.54,,0,0.81
Many have said that Finland looks a lot like Michigan and Minnesota, but mostly further north. More untouched land and long straight roads. The yellow road markings mean that you can't overtake due to poor visibility. The normal road markings are white.

The first link is ugly, and second one is just depressing. At least here they let the trees age to a mature age.

Ha! Turku to Lieto road trip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlBK...059E882A0AF3B8

Beautiful S Finland:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFlp...059E882A0AF3B8

Winter road trip in N Finland!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOpr...059E882A0AF3B8

Lahti. Boke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk6x4S2e6fs

This is way off-topic, but if you know any good road trip videos from your area - post them! Always nicer to look at a video than browsing google maps.

I made a nice map for you just in case. Maybe what you call Central Finland is not that, it's Northern Finland:


S, W, E and N obviously the cardinals, C for central and L for Lapland.

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Old 03-27-2014, 10:26 PM
 
Location: HERE
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Ketchikan, Alaska has daily averages above freezing every month of the year and also has an all time record low higher than many locations on the Gulf Coast.
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Old 03-27-2014, 11:25 PM
 
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The fact that the UK is not very rainy for the amount of precipitation days. It does not matter if it is rainy or not as it will still be cloudy all the time. The entire country gets under 2000 sunshine hours per year.
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Old 03-28-2014, 12:19 AM
 
Location: Finland
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SE UK isn't rainy on any standards. If they hardly get 500 mm a year, that's very little for Europe. Only the Southern Med, Romania and Ukraine can rival that.

I for example get 200 mm than SE UK, with some 5-10 more rainy days. Ok, I'm the rainiest city in Finland, but still.
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Old 03-28-2014, 12:22 AM
 
Location: Miami,FL
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The cooler water of Pacific plays a roll, but I believe the difference largely stems from the fact that the humid air in the east comes from the Gulf of Mexico. Even places far inland like Detroit are quite humid because of this. By comparison, the air in Seattle largely comes up from the dry desert in Can't-Afford-ya and Arizona during the summer.


I didn't know this either until someone pointed out to me that the record low for Florid is lower than the record low for Vancouver.
yep -2f(-19c)
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Old 03-28-2014, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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The fact that the UK is not very rainy for the amount of precipitation days. It does not matter if it is rainy or not as it will still be cloudy all the time. The entire country gets under 2000 sunshine hours per year.

I think that is actually a postive aspect of the UK climate that it doesn't have a lot of rain days given the sunshine hours. I actually enjoy cloudy days with dry conditions.
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Old 03-28-2014, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Mountain birch. The dwarf birch looks more like a strawberry plant:


I think they're ugly as hell as well, but better than nothing. I google-drove a couple of days ago from Nordkapp to Rovaniemi, and those ugly-ass birches were a pleasant sight after the tundra.




Yes, in theory maybe. The "cut one plant one" policy is rather old in Finland, so most of the forests have regenerated once or twice. But they still cut many unwanted trees that spread, mostly alder, maple and rowan. Maybe 'manicured' forest would be a better term.



Many have said that Finland looks a lot like Michigan and Minnesota, but mostly further north. More untouched land and long straight roads. The yellow road markings mean that you can't overtake due to poor visibility. The normal road markings are white.

The first link is ugly, and second one is just depressing. At least here they let the trees age to a mature age.

Ha! Turku to Lieto road trip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlBK...059E882A0AF3B8

Beautiful S Finland:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFlp...059E882A0AF3B8

Winter road trip in N Finland!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOpr...059E882A0AF3B8

Lahti. Boke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk6x4S2e6fs

This is way off-topic, but if you know any good road trip videos from your area - post them! Always nicer to look at a video than browsing google maps.

I made a nice map for you just in case. Maybe what you call Central Finland is not that, it's Northern Finland:


S, W, E and N obviously the cardinals, C for central and L for Lapland.
It's very striking how much of the flat countryside of southern Finland resembles the flatter rural areas of eastern Canada. And as you go further central-north there are also areas of Finland that resemble many parts of central-north Ontario and Quebec. You don't have black spruce I believe but there are trees that are skinny spruce-type in your videos and photos that are very similar to the vegetation here.

Very interesting.
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Old 03-28-2014, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Portsmouth, UK
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The fact that the UK is not very rainy for the amount of precipitation days. It does not matter if it is rainy or not as it will still be cloudy all the time. The entire country gets under 2000 sunshine hours per year.

Yes it is always cloudy in the UK Having actually lived in the UK pretty much my entire life I can assure you it isn't cloudy 'all the time'...There is a big difference even within a small country such as England, parts of the south coast have around 1900 hrs of sunshine a year, so better than many would credit for the UK...
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