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Sydney's warmest month's average temperature is certainly above 22°C.
And yet it is cooler in the summer than subtropical places in the US southeast, but does not have its cold snaps either. I would say Sydney is extremely comfortable overall.
And yet it is cooler in the summer than subtropical places in the US southeast, but does not have its cold snaps either. I would say Sydney is extremely comfortable overall.
It has been said before, Sydney is basically a wetter San Diego.
its oceanic because its climate is (heavily) dictated by its proximity to the ocean. the further inland you go, the drier and more extreme it gets. it may look humid subtropical, but its oceanic.
personally though i think it is both. its hard to have a place that is warm and wet and not at least call it subtropical.
Sydney is Humid subtropical. The reason it gets low dewpoints, is because of the desert, not cold ocean temperatures.
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Oceanic climates tend to be cooler, if the lows of sydney where its high and its record lows where it's average low than it would be oceanic.
Incorrect. I live in an Oceanic climate, and despite being 9 degrees further south than Sydney, my highs are much warmer than Sydney's lows. Places at my latitude also have record lows equal to Sydney. Take an oceanic climate almost at Sydney's latitude, like Auckland at 36"S , and temperatures are only 2C colder in all months
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Warm oceanic (warm temperate)
Or subtropical rainforest?
Warm temperate is a meaningless distinction, that doesn't say anything useful about a climate.
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humid subtropical for me, I can't fathom the idea that it would be in the same category as Amsterdam. I don't picture Sydney as an overcast place where a raincoat is needed half of the year and where you spend summers in long pants.
Sydney is at 33 degrees of latitude, compared to Amsterdam at 52 degrees of latitude, so they obviously aren't going to get the same sort of weather. Even climates within the same group, aren't going to feel the same - my climate doesn't feel like Amsterdam either.
Sure but being at 33 degrees it can hardly be oceanic to begin with because it's gonna be too warm and sunny overall. I would say Sydney has a moderated type of Humid Subtropical climate.
That said, when most people think of Humid subtropical, they think of Atlanta, just like most people think of Dublin as the prototype of the oceanic climate. You can't avoid stereotypes because most people live in the Northern Hemisphere.
Or maybe i'll call it a desert-influenced oceanic climate !
Sure but being at 33 degrees it can hardly be oceanic to begin with because it's gonna be too warm and sunny overall. I would say Sydney has a moderated type of Humid Subtropical climate.
That said, when most people think of Humid subtropical, they think of Atlanta, just like most people think of Dublin as the prototype of the oceanic climate. You can't avoid stereotypes because most people live in the Northern Hemisphere.
Or maybe i'll call it a desert-influenced oceanic climate !
NZ has Oceanic climates at 34C, so Sydney could be Oceanic .... if the dynamics were completely different.
There's nothing moderated about Sydney. It's what could be expected given it's geographical location.
That said, when most people think of Humid subtropical, they think of Atlanta, just like most people think of Dublin as the prototype of the oceanic climate. You can't avoid stereotypes because most people live in the Northern Hemisphere.
Personally, I think of Brisbane and London as the typical climates for those classifications.
The precipitation pattern and amount is decidedly oceanic as well- most Cfa s have a distinctly wetter summer or winter, even if they aren't marked enough to make a Cs or Cw classification. Sydney has an early spring minimum and autumn maximum with no notably dry months (though I'm sure it's had individual very dry months), just like most of England.
Eastern North American Cfa climates mostly don't have a seasonal rainfall pattern, less so than some of England.
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Now the non-oceanic traits. The record highs are more typical of a desert or warm Mediterranean climate, and the 20C difference between average and record summer highs is notable. But, worth noting that Christchurch has hit 40C in a definitely oceanic climate, at a much higher latitude a long way from any deserts. So have parts of Germany.
Again, Southern US Cfa climates don't have a big summer average high - summer record high difference. Though yes, Sydney's record suggest a climate prone to dry heat.
NZ has Oceanic climates at 34C, so Sydney could be Oceanic .... if the dynamics were completely different.
There's nothing moderated about Sydney. It's what could be expected given it's geographical location.
it's moderated compared to other climates in the same classification. It never gets cold and the average high is relatively low. The only extreme event seems to be the heatwaves. Obviously it is what it is because of the location.
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