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How mild it gets in Richmond in the Winter is IRRELEVANT to my point the fact is anywhere that AVERAGES below freezing at any time of year is NOT what I would consider bloody sub-tropical! Do you know how averages work? The fact that it AVERAGES below freezing is indicative of a place that has bloody cold Winter nights!
Yeah, and the annual mean minimum of 6°C of tropical Miami is bloody cold right. In northern FL a very deeply unquestionably subtropical place, there are cities that average 3°C lows, that literally means there is plenty of frost and also deep freeze. Every year it reaches down to -8°C no problem there, but no problem also 29°C. This frost blah blah thing is useless. The average low is irrelevant about that, the highs make it up every day and the warm snaps, only the cold snaps help it reach below freezing average low if not because of that it would be way warmer. Tropical and subtropical are not the same thing, frost free climates are tropical climates. Oh say the hell to nearly tropical Southern Texas with a day that not reach above freezing! This happens literally every year! Is that not subtropical? Oh yes!!! It is only a couple degrees average coldest month shy of tropical in Brownsville, TX. In the area some people are growing even Coconut palms there, the freeze affects it but there was not a prolonged period of hard freeze so it was fine. You can have you own book but it is ridiculous to say subtropical and tropical like if the sane thing. Or subarctic Yakutsk with it’s polar 35°C!
Yeah, and the annual mean minimum of 6°C of tropical Miami is bloody cold right. In northern FL a very deeply unquestionably subtropical place, there are cities that average 3°C lows, that literally means there is plenty of frost and also deep freeze. Every year it reaches down to -8°C no problem there, but no problem also 29°C. This frost blah blah thing is useless. The average low is irrelevant about that, the highs make it up every day and the warm snaps, only the cold snaps help it reach below freezing average low if not because of that it would be way warmer. Tropical and subtropical are not the same thing, frost free climates are tropical climates. Oh say the hell to nearly tropical Southern Texas with a day that not reach above freezing! This happens literally every year! Is that not subtropical? Oh yes!!! It is only a couple degrees average coldest month shy of tropical in Brownsville, TX. In the area some people are growing even Coconut palms there, the freeze affects it but there was not a prolonged period of hard freeze so it was fine. You can have you own book but it is ridiculous to say subtropical and tropical like if the sane thing. Or subarctic Yakutsk with it’s polar 35°C!
Pretty much true! Virginia is subtropical it has everything to be. Don’t understand why some people think subtropical is tropical or almost tropical.
I've seen people describe Virginia as a four season climate. In my opinion subtropical climates should only have 3 seasons which in particular the northern part of North Island has. Also in subtropical climates during the winter there should be plant growth.
This makes the North Island more subtropical then Virginia.
This is completely arbitrary and there’s no reason Virginia is more of a 4 season climate. It’s not. Maine is a four season climate.
…New Zealand doesn’t grow *good oranges* for a reason, and whether a place can grow an introduced species or not doesn’t prove subtropicality. People who are here to rehash elementary points like this need to be banned for trolling at this point.
…New Zealand doesn’t grow *good oranges* for a reason, and whether a place can grow an introduced species or not doesn’t prove subtropicality. People who are here to rehash elementary points like this need to be banned for trolling at this point.
They taste like pretty good oranges to me. More flavour than californian or australian oranges imo, which tends to happen with lower sugar levels.
The success/failure of introduced species just provide a little more understanding towards determining whether an environment is one adapted to warmth, cold, greater or lesser slowdown.
This is completely arbitrary and there’s no reason Virginia is more of a 4 season climate. It’s not. Maine is a four season climate.
Virginia does have 4 seasons but not as pronounced as Maine. It has spring, summer, autumn, and winter but winters are not as cold as Maine. In first place who got the idea that subtropical has 3 seasons, I know no where with 3 seasons. The area where I am is literally a transition between 4 temperate seasons and 2 tropical ones, it is like 4 are reducing into 2. Here part of fall, winter, and early spring act like their respective seasons to some point but are almost acting as 1 season, the rest of the year acts like another, laye spring through early fall is starting to pronounce a tropical wet season. Here I would say is where 2 tropical and 4 temperate seasons meet, but that happens here literally in the transitional areas to tropical the rest of what is subtropical under classification just has 4 seasons but not as pronounced as continental climates.
…New Zealand doesn’t grow *good oranges* for a reason, and whether a place can grow an introduced species or not doesn’t prove subtropicality. People who are here to rehash elementary points like this need to be banned for trolling at this point.
Yeah, and Virginia only grows hardy citrus in coastal area of the state. The hardiest citrus hybirds can be grown in most of the state. Not to say NZ is more subtropical, I do believe is oceanic does better in that case the Virginia. Now in North Carolina case the coastal southern part of the state is perfect for citrus there it starts to be a debate. If you keep going deeper south it starts to get better and more commercially.
Yeah, and Virginia only grows hardy citrus in coastal area of the state. The hardiest citrus hybirds can be grown in most of the state. Not to say NZ is more subtropical, I do believe is oceanic does better in that case the Virginia. Now in North Carolina case the coastal southern part of the state is perfect for citrus there it starts to be a debate. If you keep going deeper south it starts to get better and more commercially.
Literally, but it’s in Florida really where it becomes commercial.
Yeah, and Virginia only grows hardy citrus in coastal area of the state. The hardiest citrus hybirds can be grown in most of the state. Not to say NZ is more subtropical, I do believe is oceanic does better in that case the Virginia. Now in North Carolina case the coastal southern part of the state is perfect for citrus there it starts to be a debate. If you keep going deeper south it starts to get better and more commercially.
New Zealand exports oranges and other citrus varieties but most of the citrus fruit grown in NZ is sold on the local market. In the warmer parts of New Zealand Kiwifruit, grapes for wine and avocadoes are bigger industries.
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New Zealand exports oranges and other citrus varieties but most of the citrus fruit grown in NZ is sold on the local market. In the warmer parts of New Zealand Kiwifruit, grapes for wine and avocadoes are bigger industries.
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