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Old 11-16-2013, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, Fl
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If an employer offers a position that pays $35,000 per year and pays you hourly, should or do they have to disclose the hourly wage?

My friend works a position that pays him $35,000 a year. The position pays $7.25 an hour with about 40% of those hours being overtime, or $10.37. Yeah, that's a lot of hours to earn $35,000 per year!

I asked him if they ever broke down the hourly rate to him at hiring or since, he said they did not and in fact tried to keep everyone in his position from realizing they were indeed getting paid minimum wage.

Is that legal? Is it ethical? Should an employer who pay an hourly wage, based on a fixed hourly schedule, disclose to you what your actually going to make per hour?
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Old 11-16-2013, 10:04 PM
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its shady, but the employee has to look out for themselves.
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Old 11-16-2013, 10:43 PM
 
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With a base wage of $7.25/hour, you would need to work 80 hours/week to pull in $35k.

That is absolutely insane.

I really don't know what the law is about disclosing hourly wages. I have always done so and it has never occurred to me to do what you describe. If I were curious enough to post about it, I would google it.
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Old 11-16-2013, 11:03 PM
 
Location: Eastern Colorado
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I don't know that it is against the law really, but it does not surprise me that some people fall for it. Some people really have no idea how their paychecks work, so I would not be surprised if they worked there for a long time before they ever actually figured out they were making minimum wage.

I really do not think it is ethical to treat people that way, but what would you expect from a company that works people 80 hours a week at minimum wage?
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Old 11-17-2013, 01:33 AM
 
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So wait, he would make $35k a year but 40% of that comes from overtime? YEESH! So essentially he'd be working like 56 hour weeks?

When my husband was offered a job he was offered a flat rate a little more than that, but they told him he'd ONLY work 40 hours a week and would get overtime if he worked more than that. He's been there over a year now and for the first time he's working some overtime because of a special inspection coming up. So I'd definitely be asking how many hours/week and the per hour rate...
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Old 11-17-2013, 06:01 AM
 
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The ethical thing to do is tell employees what their hourly wage is, how many hours they are expected to work per week and what their annual earnings will be.
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Old 11-17-2013, 06:12 AM
 
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He needs to find out if this is an hourly position or a salaried position. If it's an hourly position the only thing that matters is the hourly rate. If salaried, the only thing that matters is the salary.

Most places try to avoid OT work...it wouldn't surprise me if once your friend started he only ended up working 40 hrs....the promise of 35k out the window.
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Old 11-17-2013, 06:15 AM
 
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If an employer offers a position that pays $35,000 per year and pays you hourly, should or do they have to disclose the hourly wage?

My friend works a position that pays him $35,000 a year. The position pays $7.25 an hour with about 40% of those hours being overtime, or $10.37. Yeah, that's a lot of hours to earn $35,000 per year!

I asked him if they ever broke down the hourly rate to him at hiring or since, he said they did not and in fact tried to keep everyone in his position from realizing they were indeed getting paid minimum wage.

Is that legal? Is it ethical? Should an employer who pay an hourly wage, based on a fixed hourly schedule, disclose to you what your actually going to make per hour?
Aren't you responsible for you?

Aren't you responsible for asking the question "what is my schedule?"

It should be illegal to be that stupid.
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Old 11-17-2013, 06:45 AM
 
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I don't know that it is against the law really, but it does not surprise me that some people fall for it. Some people really have no idea how their paychecks work, so I would not be surprised if they worked there for a long time before they ever actually figured out they were making minimum wage.
The person would know their hourly rate the first time they got paid and saw their pay stub.

There is nothing illegal or unethical about an employers that tells a candidate the average amount made by the average worker. We see it all the time in ads that say "Make up to $50k a year." Notice the "up to" part. This is used a lot in jobs like sales or where overtime is common and encouraged. All of this fuzzy language happens early on in the application process.

When the employee is actually hired, they shouldn't begin work until they have a firm understanding of the details of how they will get paid. If there is any confusion, they need to keep asking questions.

I don't understand how an adult would not understand how their paycheck work.
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Old 11-17-2013, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Mayberry
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You have to find out if you are exempt or non exempt if 35,000.00 is your yearly salary.
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