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Old 04-24-2017, 03:31 PM
 
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A place I worked for brought in outside people to help the department operate better. Nothing resulted and I recall a member of that team said he couldn't recall workers getting along as well as the members of my department.

Has your place ever brought in efficiency experts? What resulted?
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Old 04-25-2017, 07:35 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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A place I worked for brought in outside people to help the department operate better. Nothing resulted and I recall a member of that team said he couldn't recall workers getting along as well as the members of my department.

Has your place ever brought in efficiency experts? What resulted?
It's step 1 of downsizing/outsourcing.
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Old 04-25-2017, 07:43 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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We have our own department that handles organizational performance and efficiency, with LEAN expertise, training others so that each department can do their own process improvement.
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Old 04-25-2017, 07:46 AM
 
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If companies would hire and promote people worth two craps into management positions and not just potential future love and buddy interests,they wouldn't need nonsense like "efficiency experts" around

Of course nothing results in bringing in these outside entities because even after they leave the problem remains. The rot needs to be eradicated not foolishly band-aided
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Old 04-25-2017, 08:06 AM
 
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bringing in outsiders usually means you guys missed out on overtime. Companies do this to limit some of the responsibilities of higher paid employees, and place contractors to do minimal work. cut OT and overall labor costs. eventually have the regulars train the contractors, and eliminate the higher paid staff.
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Old 04-25-2017, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Over yonder a piece
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We have our own department that handles organizational performance and efficiency, with LEAN expertise, training others so that each department can do their own process improvement.
This is what my company has as well. For departments that truly adopt the methodology, it has worked wonders - not only has morale increased dramatically, but their ability to simply *do their jobs* has increased because there's less "junk" taking up so much of their time.

And no one has been laid off as a result, for those wondering.
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Old 04-25-2017, 10:07 AM
 
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bringing in outsiders usually means you guys missed out on overtime. Companies do this to limit some of the responsibilities of higher paid employees, and place contractors to do minimal work. cut OT and overall labor costs. eventually have the regulars train the contractors, and eliminate the higher paid staff.
This is so off base. Perhaps none of the current employees were versed in process improvement techniques. If the company wanted a formal approach like Six Sigma, then random employees would not be able to handle that.
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Old 04-25-2017, 02:39 PM
 
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I was a nurse at a children's hospital when efficiency experts were brought in and followed us around and timed everything that we did for days. I was starting an IV on a very sick four year old and was so frustrated when the consultant started his timer at the point that I started wiping the child's arm with alcohol. I guess the 5 or so minutes that I spent explaining, coaxing, reassuring... didn't count for anything.
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Old 04-25-2017, 02:46 PM
 
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I was a nurse at a children's hospital when efficiency experts were brought in and followed us around and timed everything that we did for days. I was starting an IV on a very sick four year old and was so frustrated when the consultant started his timer at the point that I started wiping the child's arm with alcohol. I guess the 5 or so minutes that I spent explaining, coaxing, reassuring... didn't count for anything.
They can only measure repeatable and quantifiable actions.
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Old 04-25-2017, 02:52 PM
 
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They can only measure repeatable and quantifiable actions.
Which only works on widget machines so is pretty pointless for most job descriptions.
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