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There is a position that just opened up in my company on another team. One of my team members approached the manager to discuss the position. I found out about it from the manager.
I fully support her moving into another role if that is her interest. However IMO she should have approached me first, then the new manager. The new manager doesn't agree.
Are we asking about "rules" or "etiquette"? There's no rule against her approaching the other manager. You simply don't like it. "Etiquette" went out the window when CEOs downsized people so they could keep their 69 hundred to 1 pay ratios. As far as your team member is concerned, you are a potential obstacle: It's better to ask forgiveness than permission.
From the employee's point of view, there is no sense in discussing it with you unless she gets a good vibe from the leader of the team that she wants to go to.
Common sense and etiquette? Yes the person should have talked to you first. You want to keep good relationships with old managers when making internal moves.
There is a position that just opened up in my company on another team. One of my team members approached the manager to discuss the position. I found out about it from the manager.
I fully support her moving into another role if that is her interest. However IMO she should have approached me first, then the new manager. The new manager doesn't agree.
Thoughts? What are the rules in this situation?
This is more personal preference (maybe even a company culture thing) than an etiquette question. In that sense, you would have preferred your staff to come to you first. But she obviously didn't feel the same way.
Looking back, there are managers that I have close relationships with and would probably have approached them first. But there are also others where I wouldn't have needed their input before I inquired. This doesn't mean I dislike the latter managers. The relationship was just different.
I have also worked at places where inter-dept. moves required the current managers okay. But that would also be specific to the formal application process. It wouldn't stop me from talking to the other manager first.
There is a position that just opened up in my company on another team. One of my team members approached the manager to discuss the position. I found out about it from the manager.
I fully support her moving into another role if that is her interest. However IMO she should have approached me first, then the new manager. The new manager doesn't agree.
Thoughts? What are the rules in this situation?
If she already knew the other manager and initially wanted to discuss the position what she did was fine. And the manager did the right thing by letting you know.
If she formally applied, etc. and didn’t discuss with you I would have been a bit put out myself, but that then depends on company policy.
There is a position that just opened up in my company on another team. One of my team members approached the manager to discuss the position. I found out about it from the manager.
I fully support her moving into another role if that is her interest. However IMO she should have approached me first, then the new manager. The new manager doesn't agree.
Thoughts? What are the rules in this situation?
If you are a "team lead" who reports to the first level manager, it would have been more appropriate to talk to you first. Even if you do not have any formal title as a team lead, but are the senior person on the team, it would still make sense to talk to you first. But at the same time, I don't see going straight to the manager, who I take it is the one who can actually act on the request, as being particularly gauche.
It's all good, she is a great member of my team and I only want what is best for her. I wanted to guide her for future (she is very young). The other director thought differently from me so thought I would do some crowd sourcing.
Are we asking about "rules" or "etiquette"? There's no rule against her approaching the other manager. You simply don't like it. "Etiquette" went out the window when CEOs downsized people so they could keep their 69 hundred to 1 pay ratios. As far as your team member is concerned, you are a potential obstacle: It's better to ask forgiveness than permission.
Why would she have to talk with you first? I mean you can't hold her hostage to the job. She could quit then apply as an external applicant if you gave her trouble over it.
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