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Reason being from my experience, males tend to be way more clanish and will prefer to establish a more "Good old boys" club" herd in the management ranks and depend on more beer buddies to fill them. Women tend to be more performance based and generally they get more catty with each other in the work environment. Male bosses would rather tend to fill the ranks in the management team with the beer drinking, golf buddies and performance tends to mean less and they will keep you out of the management ranks if you show more ability than them when it comes to knowledge and performance at the company if you are a male.
It didn't matter to me. I just wanted them to do their jobs.
I had women bosses who were worthless as teats on a bull and women bosses who were outstanding. The same with men.
I did find that the worthless women bosses did come to work every day while the worthless male bosses rarely showed up on time. I had one who called in one day to say he was running a little late. We didn't see him for three weeks.
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Like North Beach I have had both good and bad males and females. My current boss is a female, started last spring and so far is great, far better than the female before her. My last male boss was a disaster, and the reason I left that job after 17 years. The male boss he replaced was great, in fact he's now 82 and I discovered he has moved to this area so went and had lunch with him, over 40 years since I worked for him.
Agree that either one has an equal chance to be good or bad, but thinking back over my own experience, the bosses I ended up having better working relationships with were overwhelmingly male. Part of it was simply due to the nature of the work...at least in the earlier years, the profession simply attracted more men than women. Because I started out as a technical/professional woman in a male dominated field (women tended to stick to administrative support roles and I wasn't one of those), I've never cared that much about same sex camaraderie. Do the work, do it sincerely to the best of your ability, show respect for everyone, and you'll earn the respect of pretty much everyone in return. IME, neither gender is exempt from cliquish behavior, little spites and biases, immaturity, one-upmanship, and pettiness.
A favorite quote from a favorite book character about the nature of "men's" versus "women's" work:
"I've heard women complain about doing men's work and men complaining about doing women's work. What I've never heard is the work complaining as long as it got done!"
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It didn't matter to me. I just wanted them to do their jobs.
I had women bosses who were worthless as teats on a bull and women bosses who were outstanding. The same with men.
I did find that the worthless women bosses did come to work every day while the worthless male bosses rarely showed up on time. I had one who called in one day to say he was running a little late. We didn't see him for three weeks.
That's the winning statement. I don't care about their sex; I care about how good a boss they were. Like NBP, I had both good and bad both men and women. I will say however, that when I did have a worthless boss, male or female, I was far happier when they didn't show up than when they did. Because when they weren't there, I could simply step into their role and do their job and mine too. Things flowed much better for everyone in the organization when they weren't there.
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