no elk (Cody, Jackson, Pinedale: credit, university, camping)

[jody_wy]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y182/Jodywy/20100128_6ld-1.jpg (broken link)
This is just north of Jackson Hole, 22 wolves in one pack about 2 miles from the Cabin and Alkali feed grounds in the Gros Ventre. Late January, 2010.

Great news, the WGFD won't have to feed elk this year, probably can't even find an elk in the Gros Ventre, they will be scattered everywhere alive and dead.

I wonder how many elk and moose a week it takes to keep this bunch going?

Friend from Canada said about 2 Moose a week for a pack of 10

[Heit]

Time to start hunting "them" again! They have pounded Idaho's elk numbers.

[shadowwalker]

That and the grizzlies are the exact reason we quit hunting west of Duboise several years ago. Unless the elk are being pushed by hunters they aren't just hanging out being elk so you can find them. The last few years we did hunt up there we counted less than 20 fawns and elk calves from that spring,out of a week or two's hunting, and that is out of a camp of 5 hunters that hunted that area since 1993.
We slowly saw the decine of everything we used to hunt in abundance,sad.
We don't even go to that part of the state.

[ImAHobbit]

I've moved to the other side of the state, but my Dad's still in Cody. There used to be hundreds of tags available and now you've got to be real luck to draw one now. How long will it be before they have to shut down hunting elk all together?

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0717121424.htm

Greater Yellowstone Elk Suffer Worse Nutrition And Lower Birth Rates Due To Wolves

ScienceDaily (Aug. 10, 2009) — Wolves have caused elk in the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem to change their behavior and foraging habits so much so that herds are having fewer calves, mainly due to changes in their nutrition, according to a new study published by Montana State University researchers.

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The decline in the Greater Yellowstone's elk population since the reintroduction of wolves in 1995 has been greater than was originally predicted. In the three winters prior to the reintroduction of wolves, elk on Yellowstone's northern range numbered roughly between 17,000 and 19,000. In the three winters prior to 2008, annual elk counts had declined to between 6,738 and 6,279. (Credit: Photo courtesy of John A. Winnie Jr.)

[Ann the Artist]

We were told by a long-time resident of Clark that according to the WY. Game and Fish Dept. a single wolf is responsible for 57 elk kills per year.

[ElkHunter]

Originally Posted by Ann From Texas

We were told by a long-time resident of Clark that according to the WY. Game and Fish Dept. a single wolf is responsible for 57 elk kills per year.

That kind of has merit but the numbers are kind of flakey.

If you take the number of elk killed, by the number of wolves, then it's accurate.

But think about this. A Wolf is one of the few animals that kills to kill. They don't kill for food. The older wolves use every opportunity they can to train the young pups and to practice.

So when you think about that, it doesn't take 57 elk to feed one wolf, but one wolf is, on average, responsible for 57 deaths.

[willarn]

Our forefathers killed all the wolf packs for a reason. If they can wipe out a population of elk that fast. what's next ? When all the elk, deer, buffalo and moose and then the rancher's cattle are all but wiped out who's next on the menu? Will it be our children and then us? People have had all kinds of run ins and close calls with the wolves outside of Yellowstone park. Its not safe to go camping and hiking without being armed anymore. Its amazing to me that's its always the hiker's fault its never the wolf pack's fault. Thanks to the environmentalist that don't want anybody to hunt them. I think the only good wolf is a dead wolf and l think they look real nice as a rug at my feet.
I know what you're going to say, they have a right to live and they are beautiful animals. Well my motto is S.B.S.U Shoot Bury Shut up.

Well that's my two cents

[BennyPhoenix]

The envirowhackos messed up on this one big.
The biggest mistake is that these wolves are not native. They are a different type of wolve.
Personally, when I go hunting this year I hope I dont accidentally shoot a wolf or 2 or 3. Can you imagine how many wolves we could be rid of if every hunter would accidentally shoot one?
The envirowhackos should have to live with wolves. They have no idea how big and dangerous they are. They are not coyotes.

[Ann the Artist]

I Googled the Wyoming wolf population. According to Pinedale on the Web, at the close of 2007 it was 359, up 15% from the previous year. Hypothetically, if that math is carried forth to the close of 2009 there must be about 475 of them right now and lots of pups on the way.

For whatever reason they kill approximately 57 elk each, for food or pup training, that seems to add up to 27,000 elk they take out each year.

I think willarn and BennyPhoenix are on to something.

[willarn]

Originally Posted by BennyPhoenix

The envirowhackos messed up on this one big.
The biggest mistake is that these wolves are not native. They are a different type of wolve.
Personally, when I go hunting this year I hope I dont accidentally shoot a wolf or 2 or 3. Can you imagine how many wolves we could be rid of if every hunter would accidentally shoot one?
The envirowhackos should have to live with wolves. They have no idea how big and dangerous they are. They are not coyotes.

I thought I might be setting my self up for some back lash but I'm glad to see I'm not the only one to thinks this way. But my comment is still new .