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Old 05-02-2023, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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A.I is going to hurt college educated professionals the same way how automation hurt blue collar uneducated people 30 years ago. I'd be surprised if companies lay off Human Resources in favor of A. I. With A. I.

We as a society have entered the 4th industrial revolution.
Very prescient.



The good news is that all previous industrial revolutions have raises the overall standard of living for the middle classes. The question is, will this one also? Or not.
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Old 05-02-2023, 12:03 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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If you have no idea or any ambition you will live how you deserve. The only difference will be is you won't be hungry or with out basic shelter unless you want to be. It won't be looked upon as strange to be unemployed. Much like in todays world somebody with out a job isn't counted if they are not activ3ly participating in the labor market because they have other things to do.
I am retired and I have never seen so many younger folks that don't work. I wonder how they make their money. At the beach, at the library, shopping. I was truly amazed when I first retired.
Maybe they make it all off the internet now. I just don't know.
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Old 05-02-2023, 12:03 PM
 
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I am not worried about independent AI Overlords ruling humanity, I am more worried about a company/group/nation or even a very rich guy, using AI as a force multiplier to rule over anyone without their own competing AI.

You know someone (company/group/nation) right now has to be training something 1000x bigger just in case.
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Old 05-02-2023, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Interesting. Is everything going to be free in this new "future world" ?
For us and the rest of the Krell.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2BYyeS-fIU
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Old 05-02-2023, 12:07 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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I am not worried about independent AI Overlords ruling humanity, I am more worried about a company/group/nation or even a very rich guy, using AI as a force multiplier to rule over anyone without their own competing AI.

You know someone (company/group/nation) right now has to be training something 1000x bigger just in case.
Training AI takes a lot of money (millions), computing power and data space...not something individual can afford.

techie study:
https://cset.georgetown.edu/wp-conte...e-Progress.pdf

regular news article:
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/13/chat...ive-price.html
The cost to develop and maintain the software can be extraordinarily high.

Nvidia makes most of the GPUs for the AI industry, and its primary data center workhorse chip costs $10,000.

Analysts and technologists estimate that the critical process of training a large language model such as GPT-3 could cost over $4 million.
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At its peak in 2021, Walton estimates Latitude was spending nearly $200,000 a month on OpenAI’s so-called generative AI software and Amazon Web Services in order to keep up with the millions of user queries it needed to process each day.
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Old 05-02-2023, 12:08 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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I am not worried about independent AI Overlords ruling humanity, I am more worried about a company/group/nation or even a very rich guy, using AI as a force multiplier to rule over anyone without their own competing AI.

You know someone (company/group/nation) right now has to be training something 1000x bigger just in case.
Yeah proprietary AI will be a problem. Take a guy like Musk and multi0ly his capabilities by 1,000 and that's sort of scary. What I have toyed with now is just a trial sam0le of AI they aren't going to let me use anything that isn't crippled by design.
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Old 05-02-2023, 12:09 PM
 
Location: NMB, SC
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Yeah proprietary AI will be a problem. Take a guy like Musk and multi0ly his capabilities by 1,000 and that's sort of scary. What I have toyed with now is just a trial sam0le of AI they aren't going to let me use anything that isn't crippled by design.
Musk isn't a threat.

More like Microsoft which has a monopoly on PC's and soon will own the entire video gaming industry.

GPT-4 is OpenAI's next gen AI engine and that is closed source...proprietary.
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Old 05-02-2023, 12:10 PM
 
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Okay. What's your answer? You pick apart any idea I suggest seem annoyed it doesn't fit your style or expectations. Any solution of your own? The writing is on the wall there is no way the current system could continue like it or not. Ironically it will be skilled, high income workers that take the hit the hardest.

Whatever it is it won't be based upon what you or I choose to do, it will be out of necessity.
You just replied to my suggestion.
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Old 05-02-2023, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Why yes, it probably will be once we go to digital currency.

Already being tested in over 100 countries including the US.
Currency is simply a storage medium of production. Without production, you can't support a currency. You have to have a productivity for your currency to represent.

Remember how currency began. It replaced barter, which was the trading of good. You caught fish, I made sandals, we traded. Somebody made a coin to represent those values. Take away the underlying goods, and the currency is worthless.

Maybe I misunderstood your post. That is the problem with bitcoin. There is no underlying value. It is backed by nothing but a belief in its worth. The dollar is the same, but at least it is supported competely and entirely by the federal government. Promises and past history at least give us a reason to believe that the government will fix problems with the dollar, the way they rushed in and rescued Silicon Valley Bank.

Imagine if SVB was 100% Bitcoin. They would have let it collapse.
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Old 05-02-2023, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Awesome. Sign me up. Where do I pick up my free home, cottage, 42' Outerlimits GTX, 800hp street car, some snowmobiles, ATV's, a steady supply of good cigars and bourbon ?
It will more likely be tiny pod and a daily allotted dose of bug protein. Yummy! /sarc.
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