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Old 06-16-2023, 04:08 AM
 
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As I discussed in my previous thread about unpaid time off, human management tends to create rigid policies that don't have written exceptions, because humans are afraid of actually having to go to the trouble to customize a work arrangement, or are afraid of being accused of discriminatory treatment, or are afraid of inadvertently screwing up their labor law compliance. Or, perhaps, they have trust issues. For whatever reason, it seems like automating management is the ultimate answer. Computers would be able to do what humans are so afraid to or are too lazy to consider. It's already happened in the financial markets, where anyone can buy "insurance" against market falls/rises by purchasing the appropriate stock options. If human managers were replaced by computers, then presumably labor could have "options" too. I should be able to buy a policy concession that would allow me to have the option to take unpaid leave before exhausting my PTO. The computer would be able to determine exactly what a fair price is for the risk imparted to the company, per day of unpaid leave, and quote me a price (cast as a salary reduction, in order to comply with the labor laws, if need be).

This arrangement seems like it would be an enormous benefit to people who are struggling with the dilemma of balancing work and care responsibilities for out of state family, or people who simply fall through the cracks because their kids have 3 months off for the summer but summer camps only last a week. Or those who have disabilities. Etc. etc. etc.

If management were automated, then I should be able to buy an unpaid leave option, analogous to a stock option, for a price that was approximately commensurate with the pro-rated difference between the equivalent full-time and part-time positions.

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Old 06-16-2023, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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I think that would be awful. There is a lot of nuance and grey areas in managing real people with real concerns, and I don't believe that machine learning has the capability, at least yet, to manage those situations. Think of the experiences most people have with customer service bots, and how often people end up yelling "representative!" into the phone because their situation requires a human.
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Old 06-16-2023, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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AI is going to absolutely ruin customer service before long. I think that will really slow it down before it can spread into other areas.
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Old 06-16-2023, 07:17 AM
 
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I'm lost here. Replace a manager who does real, actual work with some computer who makes decisions based on algorithms? Managers do far more than make decisions on leave. It sounds like you're possibly wanting more time off and that you see a path to doing this is replacing a manager you don't like with a computer who will give you that time off, lol.

This is crazy talk, I'm sorry.
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Old 06-16-2023, 07:35 AM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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Craziest thing I read today... and I just went through Twitter posts!
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Old 06-16-2023, 08:40 AM
 
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Why would a policy implemented by computer be less rigid than one implemented by humans? It's the policy that is rigid, not the one following it.
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Old 06-16-2023, 09:33 AM
 
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Why would a policy implemented by computer be less rigid than one implemented by humans? It's the policy that is rigid, not the one following it.
You are thinking of a computer implementing a policy written by humans. I'm thinking the other way - let the computer present humans with options that have an expected outcome and let the humans work it out among them. The problem is that the humans are so afraid of the unknown that they won't consider any outside of the box ideas.
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Old 06-16-2023, 10:07 AM
 
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let the humans work it out among them.
At work? Oh you sweet summer child.
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Old 06-16-2023, 10:17 AM
 
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At work? Oh you sweet summer child.
Why not?
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Old 06-16-2023, 11:54 AM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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So you want to replace your manager with an AI. Maybe your manager wants to replace YOU with an AI.
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