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Old 03-22-2020, 01:30 PM
 
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We're not talking about a simple infection here, we're talking about a deadly virus that's new, we don't have any immunity developed in our bodies against this, it's new, keeping it out if possible, is paramount.

People are dying with this all over the world, first line of defense has to be doing everything possible to keep it out of our system.
How many in the world do you believe really work on a strong immune system? Limited amount I'd say. The two major countries with the major virus are heavy smokers...this builds a strong immune system?
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Old 03-23-2020, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Early America
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I guess this needs to be stated. One main purpose of the immune system is to protect us from viruses. A healthy immune system recognizes the difference between body cells and alien cells.

Remember, 80% of infected people have either mild symptoms or are asymptomatic. People with underlying conditions are at higher risk for worse outcomes because of weakened or otherwise compromised immune systems. Washing hands and avoiding crowds doesn't guarantee we won't get the virus. Improving the immune system is a win-win. Most people are at home now with little else to do so this is a convenient time to take advantage of it.

Taking those *extra* precautions mentioned in the OP right now, hand washing, etc., is prudent because so many people have weakened immune systems. A healthier immune system is important not only for now but for after this blows over. We will be healthier overall and for longer.



This is from a new published study to show how the immune system responds to this new coronavirus:
"We showed that even though COVID-19 is caused by a new virus, in an otherwise healthy person, a robust immune response across different cell types was associated with clinical recovery, similar to what we see in influenza" https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/art...y-immune-cells


A healthy immune system is the difference between life and death. Health authorities are remiss in not stressing the importance of caring for our immune systems.
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Old 03-23-2020, 12:03 PM
 
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((A healthy immune system is the difference between life and death. Health authorities are remiss in not stressing the importance of caring for our immune systems.))

Absolutely!!!!
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Old 03-24-2020, 06:52 AM
 
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A healthy immune system is the difference between life and death. Health authorities are remiss in not stressing the importance of caring for our immune systems.
And as it takes time to develop a healthy immune system, months or years of health living and eating, would not it make sense to try and keep the virus at bay by sanitation and avoiding crowds?

This is something, Hand cleaning and avoiding crowds, that we can achieve instantly!
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Old 03-24-2020, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Early America
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And as it takes time to develop a healthy immune system, months or years of health living and eating, would not it make sense to try and keep the virus at bay by sanitation and avoiding crowds?

This is something, Hand cleaning and avoiding crowds, that we can achieve instantly!
It was in the first post of this thread. You must have missed this:

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Anything else other than to avoid large crowds and touching eyes, nose and mouth; handwashing; wearing gloves and using hand sanitizers?

It doesn't take years to develop a healthier lifestyle. Most people start experiencing improvement within days of making positive changes.
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Old 03-24-2020, 09:23 AM
 
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I wholeheartedly agree with OP here, immune system is the most important issue in this all. All we hear out there is keeping distance and sanitizing.



Thats because you are unlikely to boost your immune system appreciably in the short term, whereas if you prevent the virus from entering your body you don't get the disease even if you have a weak immune system.



Its the absolute right order of priority. Hand-washing and social distancing are more important RIGHT NOW, but by all means continue to eat healthy and do other things to maintain a healthy immune system for the long term.
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Old 03-24-2020, 10:33 AM
 
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Its the absolute right order of priority. Hand-washing and social distancing are more important RIGHT NOW, but by all means continue to eat healthy and do other things to maintain a healthy immune system for the long term.
This is correct.

Not all people are capable of a good immune system, no matter how well they eat, or sleep etc. this is why it is important at this time to try and avoid being overtaken by Covid-19, so Hand-washing and social distancing are imperative.
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Common disorders of the immune system

It is common for people to have an over- or underactive immune system.
Overactivity of the immune system can take many forms, including:
  • allergic diseases - where the immune system makes an overly strong response to allergens. Allergic diseases are very common. They include allergies to foods, medications or stinging insects, anaphylaxis (life-threatening allergy), hay fever (allergic rhinitis), sinus disease, asthma, hives (urticaria), dermatitis and eczema
  • autoimmune diseases - where the immune system mounts a response against normal components of the body. Autoimmune diseases range from common to rare. They include multiple sclerosis, autoimmune thyroid disease, type 1 diabetes, systemic lupus erythematosus, rheumatoid arthritis and systemic vasculitis.
Underactivity of the immune system, also called immunodeficiency, can:
  • be inherited - examples of these conditions include primary immunodeficiency diseases such as common variable immunodeficiency (CVID), x-linked severe combined immunodeficiency (SCID) and complement deficiencies
  • arise as a result of medical treatment - this can occur due to medications such as corticosteroids or chemotherapy
  • be caused by another disease - such as HIV/AIDS or certain types of cancer.
An underactive immune system does not function correctly and makes people vulnerable to infections. It can be life threatening in severe cases.
People who have had an organ transplant need immunosuppression treatment to prevent the body from attacking the transplanted organ.
see https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/.../immune-system
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Old 03-24-2020, 12:04 PM
 
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Your immune system! These are essential for a well-functioning immune system to prevent illness:
  • Eat a diet that supports optimal immune function such as lean protein, fruits, vegetables, whole grains and healthy fats. Include herbs in your meals with antiviral and other healthful compounds such as garlic, basil, oregano, sage, rosemary, lemon balm, fennel, cinnamon, ginger and others; they are not just for flavor. Avoid sugars, alcohol, and refined, overly-processed foods and smoking.
  • Get adequate sleep.
  • Keep up physical activity/exercise.
  • Try to reduce stress. As stress increases, cortisol levels go up which negatively impacts immune function.

Nutritional supplements may help if your diet is not optimal, such as zinc, selenium, vitamin C, probiotics.

Address any underlying or chronic illness to avoid worse outcomes.

Plant medicines known to prevent some viruses may work against novel coronavirus too, such as echinacea, elderberry, licorice root, calendula, North American ginseng and others.

High humidity reduces survival for other viruses so a humidifier might help with this virus too.

Anything else other than to avoid large crowds and touching eyes, nose and mouth; handwashing; wearing gloves and using hand sanitizers?
Your intentions are good, but the title is extremely dangerous- nothing can replace washing your hands!
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Old 03-24-2020, 01:27 PM
 
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Thats because you are unlikely to boost your immune system appreciably in the short term,
I haven't seen any evidence from either traditional or conventional medicine that there is no short term gain from the listed healthy ways to strengthen the immune system.

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whereas if you prevent the virus from entering your body you don't get the disease even if you have a weak immune system.
You can't prevent a virus from entering your body. You can only reduce the risk. Washing hands reduces the risk but doesn't prevent you from getting sick. Avoiding crowds reduces the risk but doesn't prevent it. Avoiding crowds is more about minimizing the number of infected than it is about protecting you. If one person in a group of 10 is sick, potentially 10 people get sick instead of 100.

Better to equip the body to fight it as it is designed to do so that you can survive it.


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Not all people are capable of a good immune system
All the more reason not to abuse it.
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Old 03-24-2020, 01:34 PM
 
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Your intentions are good, but the title is extremely dangerous- nothing can replace washing your hands!

Extremely dangerous? C'mon. Read the last paragraph of the post you quoted.


In case y'all haven't noticed, this is the alternative health subforum. I guarantee you that everyone here knows when to wash their hands and many other ways to reduce their risks of illnesses --- as well as many ways to treat them.

It's as if the rest of the country is just now finding out about washing their hands.
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