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I don't know about the movie but the electric car isn't dead, it's waiting for practical, environmentally friendly, economical battery technology. Nothing yet comes even close to the energy density/cost of good ol' gasoline.
BTW...that film? was the topic on a thread here sometime ago...I actually watched the entire thing as did many others....it's a documentary of the type where the conclusion was formed before any investigation/reporting was done. Lots and lots of finger pointing but no actaul science behind all the conspiracy claims....typical.
Burdell got it right. The lead acid battery is just too heavy for the energy stored. I have heard that some of the new hybrids are using Lithium-ion batteries with a plug-into-the wall socket to allow overnight recharge. This technology allows the best of both types of energy storage. Batteries recharged by the grid for local trips and petroleum fuel for longer distance. The ideal engine would be a turbocharged diesel properly loaded by either the energy requirements of the car and/or the battery. It could also be rigged to provide emergency power for your house if the power failed.
Thank God we have expert opinion provided from the scientific /engineering communite such as Martin Sheen, Mel Gibson and that ole rocket scientist himself...Tom Hanks.
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Burdell got it right. The lead acid battery is just too heavy for the energy stored. I have heard that some of the new hybrids are using Lithium-ion batteries with a plug-into-the wall socket to allow overnight recharge. This technology allows the best of both types of energy storage. Batteries recharged by the grid for local trips and petroleum fuel for longer distance. The ideal engine would be a turbocharged diesel properly loaded by either the energy requirements of the car and/or the battery. It could also be rigged to provide emergency power for your house if the power failed.
The Tesla Roadster uses over 6,000 Li-Ion batteries of the type used in lap-top computers. Anyone know if there's some technical reason(s) this type of battery cannot be made in larger units suitable for transportation use?
There was no conspiracy behind crushing those cars. There was no spare parts infrastructure in place to support them for the life of the vehicle.
I'm really looking forward to the expected advances in electric generation and storage technology in the coming years. I'm hoping that Tesla can have their "sport sedan" *White Star* ready for market by the time I'm ready to replace my current car.
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doesn't the tesla cost 100k?
I believe it's in the '90s but it's a start, I hope they do well. Not only is the technology currently (no pun intended ) expensive but the current quantity is so low there's no economy of scale.
Autos were very expensive before Henry Ford and others streamlined production methods, there's no reason something simililar can't happen with electrics.
The Tesla Roadster uses over 6,000 Li-Ion batteries of the type used in lap-top computers. Anyone know if there's some technical reason(s) this type of battery cannot be made in larger units suitable for transportation use?
Technically none that I know of ..but untill there's a clearly identifiable market for such a thing no company is going to gear up for mass production of a battery in a form factor that isn't in demand yet...
On the other hand, for anyone with a little bit on knowledge about "how things work" etc..... Remember one of the 1st rules of reliability
KISS...Keep it Simple Stupid !!
6000 individual cells joined together to power a practical? over the road ,all weather vehicle??.. Lets see ..that's at a minimum 12,000 electric connections just for the power pack...How'd you like to find the 4 or 5 cells that aren't performing up to stuff huh ??
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) expensive but the current quantity is so low there's no economy of scale.
