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Old 11-21-2023, 09:42 AM
 
Location: NC
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Over twice as many cars are stolen in California (over 200K) compared to the next highest state totals, and California stolen vehicles amount to less than .06 percent of the registered vehicles in the state (over 31 million registered).

So, car thefts in general are not "rampant".
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Old 11-21-2023, 11:45 AM
 
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I suppose if you lived somewhere theft is truly rampant, you could deter theft another way. Even if they could fool the car and start the engine, put another anti theft device on it so the thief can't move it (club, etc.).

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Old 11-21-2023, 12:14 PM
 
Location: In Little Ping's Maple Dictatorship
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So, car thefts in general are not "rampant".
Vehicle thefts are up 40% in Durham Region:

https://www.drps.ca/news/preventing-...Toronto%20Area.

The measures I previously mentioned are suggestions to prevent this kind of theft from happening. A couple months ago, three separate Ram pickups were stolen in my city in the same night. All three thieves were caught, and all three were from Montreal. It is very profitable to steal full size pickup trucks and ship them overseas to be sold in the Middle East and Africa. Hell, this was going on in the 70s in NYC where organized crime groups would pay $5000 cash for a stolen car. The infamous DeMeo Crew of the Gambino Crime Family (led by Roy DeMeo) was stealing 15 to 20 cars a night during this period. It is nothing new. Check out the book "Murder Machine" by Jerry Capeci and Gene Mustaine if you are interested.

I honestly find it surprising you have not heard of this.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/auto-t...nada-1.6953242

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...cles-1.6728490
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Old 11-21-2023, 03:03 PM
 
Location: NC
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Vehicle thefts are up 40% in Durham Region:

https://www.drps.ca/news/preventing-...Toronto%20Area.

The measures I previously mentioned are suggestions to prevent this kind of theft from happening. A couple months ago, three separate Ram pickups were stolen in my city in the same night. All three thieves were caught, and all three were from Montreal. It is very profitable to steal full size pickup trucks and ship them overseas to be sold in the Middle East and Africa. Hell, this was going on in the 70s in NYC where organized crime groups would pay $5000 cash for a stolen car. The infamous DeMeo Crew of the Gambino Crime Family (led by Roy DeMeo) was stealing 15 to 20 cars a night during this period. It is nothing new. Check out the book "Murder Machine" by Jerry Capeci and Gene Mustaine if you are interested.

I honestly find it surprising you have not heard of this.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/auto-t...nada-1.6953242

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...cles-1.6728490


In 2021 (only stats I could find) there was less than .5% chance of your vehicle being stolen in NC.
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Old 11-21-2023, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Ontario, NY
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I suppose if you lived somewhere theft is truly rampant, you could deter theft another way. Even if they could fool the car and start the engine, put another anti theft device on it so the thief can't move it (club, etc.).
The club is next to worthless, I've seen You tube videos where a club is easily defeated in a few seconds. If you are serious about adding an antitheft device, a kill switch for the fuel pump is the was to go.
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Old 11-21-2023, 04:06 PM
 
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The club is next to worthless, I've seen You tube videos where a club is easily defeated in a few seconds. If you are serious about adding an antitheft device, a kill switch for the fuel pump is the was to go.
I've heard that there are ways to defeat the club. I had one for a car years ago. No one attempted to steal it but maybe that was because of the car, not the club . Guess it still serves as a deterrent. If the thief just wants a vehicle, they're more likely to target someone else's that isn't outfitted with one. I agree that a fuel kill switch would be much harder to defeat, especially if you park the car outdoors where you offer thieves an opportunity.
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Old 11-21-2023, 05:13 PM
 
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I’ve seen some products that claim to block the key fob signal to help prevent vehicle theft. Some are a leather cover and some are a box. Is there any way for an average person to test to see if such products work at blocking the signal? Have you tried any of them?

Wife’s vehicle has push button start with key fob. Considering either a box or a leather pouch/cover for her fob.
Stop................Lets start with what kind of car?
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Old 11-21-2023, 05:18 PM
 
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Distance from the place in your kitchen you keep your keys to the car. It's not that difficult to pick up the keys from 20-30 feet away and boost the signal so the car thinks the keys are in the car. If you park in a locked garage/alarmed garage, that helps.

Depends on your car. It's hard enough to be targeted. I'd worry about a Charger, particularly a Hellcat version, as those are bonkers off the charts high rates of thefts. Crims love 'em whehter it's because the anti-theft immobilizers (still need to deal with that once you drive it away from the scene) are so primitive or because crims just love the V8 Chargers like they love nothing else.

https://www.iihs.org/media/c1cb9ff8-...heft_WT-22.pdf

Theft rates are nutters.
A charger/challenger ok I can see that.

A Kia Soul not so much.

I live in a very car oriented area, there are 4 new Porsche 911's on my block, 2 of which are in the garages nightly /the other two are parked on the curb. I'll worry about the two left outside before I worry about mine in the garage.
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Old 11-22-2023, 03:50 AM
 
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A charger/challenger ok I can see that.

A Kia Soul not so much.

I live in a very car oriented area, there are 4 new Porsche 911's on my block, 2 of which are in the garages nightly /the other two are parked on the curb. I'll worry about the two left outside before I worry about mine in the garage.
In some areas it isn’t the type of car, it’s the opportunity. Not all cars are stolen for chop shops or quick cash. Some are stolen for a vehicle to have to commit crimes instead of using one registered to themselves. Some are stolen just for a joy ride. Back in the 90s my uncle’s POS Isuzu sedan was stolen. Police found it abandoned the next day. Easy to find since it had a 2x4 wood for a front bumper.
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Old 11-22-2023, 05:17 AM
 
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In some areas it isn’t the type of car, it’s the opportunity. Not all cars are stolen for chop shops or quick cash. Some are stolen for a vehicle to have to commit crimes instead of using one registered to themselves. Some are stolen just for a joy ride. Back in the 90s my uncle’s POS Isuzu sedan was stolen. Police found it abandoned the next day. Easy to find since it had a 2x4 wood for a front bumper.
Ok but you are concerned about FOB code replication and that isn't opportunity theft like stealing a junk car with the keys in it
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