What Really Happened to Malaysia’s Missing Airplane (commercial, Boeing, military)
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Pilot suicide taking innocent victims to their doom. It’s happend before on both Egyptian and German commercial aircraft. But it does allow conspiracy enthusiasts and the paranormal crowd something to do.
I think that's most likely especially since the pilot was having recent family issues and had simulated a suicide route towards Antarctica along the estimated route of MH370.
I think that's most likely especially since the pilot was having recent family issues and had simulated a suicide route towards Antarctica along the estimated route of MH370.
I have to admit, though, the new information showing evidence that the pilot went into a holding pattern as he departed Indonesian airspace (en route to the Indian Ocean) makes me wonder what that was about. But the fact that the plane flew until it ran out of fuel, then crashed nose-first does say it was a suicide mission to me.
But if a pilot is suicidal, why drag hundreds of innocent strangers along with him? Why not do something more conventional, like hanging himself, or shooting. himself, or whatever people do?
I have to admit, though, the new information showing evidence that the pilot went into a holding pattern as he departed Indonesian airspace (en route to the Indian Ocean) makes me wonder what that was about. But the fact that the plane flew until it ran out of fuel, then crashed nose-first does say it was a suicide mission to me.
But if a pilot is suicidal, why drag hundreds of innocent strangers along with him? Why not do something more conventional, like hanging himself, or shooting. himself, or whatever people do?
Why does anyone suicidal do what they do? Why did the GermanWings pilot lock the cabin doors and fly 144 passengers into the side of a mountain? Why don't all the murder-suicide people just commit the suicide first?
Maybe the pilot knew hanging himself would have impacted almost nobody but taking the plane would make him infamous and part of history?
Why does anyone suicidal do what they do? Why did the GermanWings pilot lock the cabin doors and fly 144 passengers into the side of a mountain? Why don't all the murder-suicide people just commit the suicide first?
Maybe the pilot knew hanging himself would have impacted almost nobody but taking the plane would make him infamous and part of history?
I was starting to suspect this. Same with the other incident you mentioned. Pilots using their planes as a weapon, just because they can.
And apparently, suicidal or depressed pilots have been a known hazard in the occupation for quite awhile, long before those two incidents.
But if a pilot is suicidal, why drag hundreds of innocent strangers along with him? Why not do something more conventional, like hanging himself, or shooting. himself, or whatever people do?
I answered his thought process in a prior thread I can no longer find.
The "why" is hard to fathom, but it has happened enough times in aviation history to know that it does occur. Suicide itself is a selfish act. The pilot from all accounts was broken, he had no life left except flying, and that's where he chose to end his life - in the safety cocoon of the cockpit. He didn't care about the passengers, only ending his life on his terms.
I answered his thought process in a prior thread I can no longer find.
The "why" is hard to fathom, but it has happened enough times in aviation history to know that it does occur. Suicide itself is a selfish act. The pilot from all accounts was broken, he had no life left except flying, and that's where he chose to end his life - in the safety cocoon of the cockpit. He didn't care about the passengers, only ending his life on his terms.
Thinking many claims of 'pilot suicide' are pure, unadulterated BS.
We had a crash here in 1974 (Eastern 212) officially attributed to 'pilot error''. Most of those who died were not killed in the initial impact but in the resulting fires that quickly consumed the wreckage. Pilots who studied the data stated near unanimously the CAB findings were utter BS and 'politically motivated'. Sounds familiar? The NTSB is no better, probably even worse.
Early on, a story emerged there was a 'cadre' of U.S. Naval Officers aboard the plane (in civilian clothes) who had flown in from the Middle East and were going to the Pentagon for a top secret meeting - one or more were carrying highly classified documents. All were killed in the crash. Hoping to hide their identities by flying commercial? Conspiracy theory? Crash site was a farm but now has been mostly developed into residential neighborhoods.
Thinking many claims of 'pilot suicide' are pure, unadulterated BS.
We had a crash here in 1974 (Eastern 212) officially attributed to 'pilot error''. Most of those who died were not killed in the initial impact but in the resulting fires that quickly consumed the wreckage. Pilots who studied the data stated near unanimously the CAB findings were utter BS and 'politically motivated'. Sounds familiar? The NTSB is no better, probably even worse.
Early on, a story emerged there was a 'cadre' of U.S. Naval Officers aboard the plane (in civilian clothes) who had flown in from the Middle East and were going to the Pentagon for a top secret meeting - one or more were carrying highly classified documents. All were killed in the crash. Hoping to hide their identities by flying commercial? Conspiracy theory? Crash site was a farm but now has been mostly developed into residential neighborhoods.
All right, Eastern flight 212 crashed on approach to Charlotte from Charleston. Who the hell goes through Charleston when traveling from the Middle East to DC? While CHS has International in its name, it doesn't actually have any international flights because it's just not big enough to warrant them. In order to incorporate Charleston into a Middle East --> DC itinerary, you'd have to first go to somewhere like Miami or Atlanta, and then - rather than take a flight from one of those major airports directly to DC - arrange three puddle-jumping flights through CHS and CLT. So this cabal of conspirators is powerful enough to organize a massive coverup, but can't figure out how to buy a nonstop plane ticket either from the Middle East to DC, or from Miami or Atlanta to DC. In other words, this part of your crank 'story' doesn't make a lick of sense.
Then you go on to insinuate that the sight of the crash was developed to somehow hide the 'real' reasons for the crash. The location of the crash site of Eastern flight 212 is inside what is now the Charlotte beltway (35°09′14″N, 80°55′34″W). By what logic wouldn't space inside the beltway be developed? So essentially, you're claiming that the conspirators - you know, the ones that can't quite figure out the concept of nonstop fares - somehow arranged for an entire metropolitan area to rapidly expand so as to cover-up the 'real' cause of a plane crash (as if building single-family homes where a plane once crash is going to eradicate what caused that plane to crash).
Anyway, because a bunch of super-secret Navy personnel (supposedly - no actual evidence presented) carrying super-secret documents (supposedly - no actual evidence presented) somehow couldn't find their way from the Middle East to the Pentagon without going through Charleston, and because the Charlotte metro eventually expanded into surrounding farmland (like every other metro area has done in the eastern half of the United States over the past half century), it thereby follows that the pilot of Malaysian 370 couldn't have crashed the 777 in order to kill himself?
None of this makes any sense whatsoever. But let's be honest, that's par for the conspiracy theory course.
Thinking many claims of 'pilot suicide' are pure, unadulterated BS.
We had a crash here in 1974 (Eastern 212) officially attributed to 'pilot error''. Most of those who died were not killed in the initial impact but in the resulting fires that quickly consumed the wreckage. Pilots who studied the data stated near unanimously the CAB findings were utter BS and 'politically motivated'. Sounds familiar? The NTSB is no better, probably even worse.
Early on, a story emerged there was a 'cadre' of U.S. Naval Officers aboard the plane (in civilian clothes) who had flown in from the Middle East and were going to the Pentagon for a top secret meeting - one or more were carrying highly classified documents. All were killed in the crash. Hoping to hide their identities by flying commercial? Conspiracy theory? Crash site was a farm but now has been mostly developed into residential neighborhoods.
Not sure I understand what that has to do with Malaysian flight. Pilot error is not pilot suicide.
If there is a conspiracy, it is in regards to the authorities in Malaysia not accepting that it may be a pilot suicide. Obviously they don't want to besmirch the reputation of it's flag carrier.
None of this makes any sense whatsoever. But let's be honest, that's par for the conspiracy theory course.
Charleston had a major Naval Base at the time. Charlotte Douglas Municipal Airport was just that in 1974. The international terminal wasn't built and opened until 1982. Most of the previous terminal (built and opened in 1954) is still there and used as professional offices.
Historical tip:
Charlotte-Douglas Airport moved to its present site in 1935, a WPA project. The original 1935 terminal was torn down in 1961.
Charlotte's first commercial airfield was the former Greene Army Airfield, bequeathed to the City of Charlotte by the Department of the Army in the late 1920s after Camp Greene was closed down. Was located at what became Freedom Mall, currently professional offices for the City and State governments.
The 1929 airport ceased flying operations in 1955. The main entrance was located where Tuckseegee Road, Triangle Drive, Ashley Road come together behind the current Freedom Village Shopping Center.
Thinking many claims of 'pilot suicide' are pure, unadulterated BS.
Thinking many denials are wishful thinking so we don't have to admit that we live in that kind of world.
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