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Old 06-05-2008, 11:54 PM
 
Location: Knoxville
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Good grief, no. The guy's a mental midget. I was extremely happy to see him go.

I suppose it's somewhat of a positive that the Cardinals battled back to lose 10-9 (including leading at one point), but the fact that we lost on a walk-off home run was pretty disappointing.

Two Cardinals got their first big league long balls today, which is always pretty cool to see. One of them was Joe Mather (outfield), but the other was Mark Worrell, a career relief pitcher who hit an absolute bomb. It was a three-run shot, and he hit it as if he was a natural.

 
Old 06-06-2008, 03:55 AM
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Good grief, no. The guy's a mental midget. I was extremely happy to see him go.

I suppose it's somewhat of a positive that the Cardinals battled back to lose 10-9 (including leading at one point), but the fact that we lost on a walk-off home run was pretty disappointing.

Two Cardinals got their first big league long balls today, which is always pretty cool to see. One of them was Joe Mather (outfield), but the other was Mark Worrell, a career relief pitcher who hit an absolute bomb. It was a three-run shot, and he hit it as if he was a natural.

Just want to clarify. Are you talking about Tim Worrell or former Brave Mark Wohlers?? Just checking.
 
Old 06-06-2008, 10:54 AM
 
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Just want to clarify. Are you talking about Tim Worrell or former Brave Mark Wohlers?? Just checking.
Neither.

The Official Site of The St. Louis Cardinals: Team: Active Roster

Look under "pitchers," and you'll see Mark Worrell.
 
Old 06-06-2008, 03:07 PM
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Neither.

The Official Site of The St. Louis Cardinals: Team: Active Roster

Look under "pitchers," and you'll see Mark Worrell.
Whoops! Sorry. Just a little behind the times, I guess. I thought you referred to someone from the past.
 
Old 06-09-2008, 03:19 AM
 
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Good grief, no. The guy's a mental midget. I was extremely happy to see him go.
Well, he owned the Dodgers last night. Zero earned runs in 6-1/3 innings...
 
Old 06-09-2008, 03:47 AM
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Neither.

The Official Site of The St. Louis Cardinals: Team: Active Roster

Look under "pitchers," and you'll see Mark Worrell.
I'll do it, but I believe you.
 
Old 06-09-2008, 09:40 AM
 
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Well, he owned the Dodgers last night. Zero earned runs in 6-1/3 innings...
He pitched plenty of good games for the Cardinals, but that was always counterbalanced by the many bad (and sometimes terrible) games he had. I remember a stretch where he lost 10 decisions in a row (although he started more than 10 games in that span), and his 14-16 record and 6.02 ERA in 2006 certainly didn't endear me to him very much. Heck, he didn't even pitch for us during our World Series run. That says a lot.

I guess he's doing okay now (4.54 ERA is right around his career average), and he has the added bonus of being one of the best-hitting pitchers in the game, but I'm still glad he's gone. If he does well, good for him, but I've never second guessed the management's decision to let him go.
 
Old 06-09-2008, 10:16 AM
 
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He pitched plenty of good games for the Cardinals, but that was always counterbalanced by the many bad (and sometimes terrible) games he had. I remember a stretch where he lost 10 decisions in a row (although he started more than 10 games in that span), and his 14-16 record and 6.02 ERA in 2006 certainly didn't endear me to him very much. Heck, he didn't even pitch for us during our World Series run. That says a lot.

I guess he's doing okay now (4.54 ERA is right around his career average), and he has the added bonus of being one of the best-hitting pitchers in the game, but I'm still glad he's gone. If he does well, good for him, but I've never second guessed the management's decision to let him go.
are you talking about Jason Marquis? that guy is OK at best, he had a very fluke-y season in 2004 with a 15-7 record and a 3.71 ERA
 
Old 06-09-2008, 10:42 AM
 
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are you talking about Jason Marquis? that guy is OK at best, he had a very fluke-y season in 2004 with a 15-7 record and a 3.71 ERA
The Cardinals seem to have a knack for getting the most out of their players (lots of players have had unexpectedly great seasons in St. Louis despite their previous reputations), so I wasn't surprised when he pitched well in 2005. Dave Duncan is a fantastic pitching coach, though, so I give him a lot of credit. Look at Todd Wellemeyer as a perfect example - he was the NL pitcher of the month in May, beating out people like Carlos Zambrano for the award.

But yeah, like I said, Marquis has good moments and bad moments. Unfortunately for him, there's more of the bad than the good, and the bad tends to be particularly bad (at least in my experience).
 
Old 06-10-2008, 05:57 PM
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Default NL Central as of June 10

Here's the latest on the NL Central race as of Tuesday, June 10:

1. Cubs
2. Cards
3. Brewers
4. Astros
5. Pirates
6. Reds

It looks like third place is close for the bottom four teams, but the great divide is from second to third (four games right now). Divisional opponents play one another this week in Cincinnati and Houston. Meanwhile, the Flubs are back home to play the Braves at Wrigley, and the Pirates will host the Nats.

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