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People want luxury even in a truck camper. I've seen some crazy Arctic Fox top of line truck campers LOADED with 2 slide outs and everything. People then travel with a full load of water and multiple propane tanks and waaay too much gear.. I've seen 1 ton duallys sagging like crazy. Waaay overloaded. A friend of mine had a luxury Arctic Fox and he custom ordered a Ford F-550 to safely haul what he wanted.
My camper FULLY loaded with water and gear comes in at 3,200 lbs. I'm over my payload by 700lbs (according to the sticker). I looked at the engineering specs for the actual difference between a 2500 and 3500 chevy HD and the differences are minimal. A 3500 has a gusseted rear axle to the differential, a higher capacity radiator and most importantly additional overload springs, a larger set of rear shocks and a different bump stop. The frames are [/b]identical[/b].
I added larger Fox shocks, a set of rear airbags and I'm comfortable at that weight. I'm over 2500 payload max but well under 3500 payload max.
Not intimating that you don't, but most people do not understand that those air bags do nothing to increase carrying capacity, they only serve to keep the truck from squatting under a very heavy load and aiming your headlights into the eyes of oncoming traffic.
Not intimating that you don't, but most people do not understand that those air bags do nothing to increase carrying capacity, they only serve to keep the truck from squatting under a very heavy load and aiming your headlights into the eyes of oncoming traffic.
Not intimating that you don't, but most people do not understand that those air bags do nothing to increase carrying capacity, they only serve to keep the truck from squatting under a very heavy load and aiming your headlights into the eyes of oncoming traffic.
Yeah I know- it's to level it out. Without them filled I need only an inch to level. I'm not too far over weight that it bothers me to the point I need to add the 1 ton leaf pack. Plus they are nice If I find a spot to camp and it it's not level, I point the nose uphill as best I can and then pump up the bags.
I had a similar Hallmark camper on my old 3/4 ton Dodge diesel and I used to go out and fetch rocks to get it somewhat level. No airbags- the truck had a truck camper spring package. My chevy has a gauge setting for angle side to side/front to back. Makes it easy peasey now!
People want luxury even in a truck camper. I've seen some crazy Arctic Fox top of line truck campers LOADED with 2 slide outs and everything. People then travel with a full load of water and multiple propane tanks and waaay too much gear.. I've seen 1 ton duallys sagging like crazy. Waaay overloaded. A friend of mine had a luxury Arctic Fox and he custom ordered a Ford F-550 to safely haul what he wanted.
My camper FULLY loaded with water and gear comes in at 3,200 lbs. I'm over my payload by 700lbs (according to the sticker). I looked at the engineering specs for the actual difference between a 2500 and 3500 chevy HD and the differences are minimal. A 3500 has a gusseted rear axle to the differential, a higher capacity radiator and most importantly additional overload springs, a larger set of rear shocks and a different bump stop. The frames are [/b]identical[/b].
I added larger Fox shocks, a set of rear airbags and I'm comfortable at that weight. I'm over 2500 payload max but well under 3500 payload max.
Half way through the 2nd para you started talking a different language.
I just keep all the weights within the limits for the camper and for our truck, with oodles of leeway.
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When we bought our 25' we definitely looked for one without slides. All it does is add a few square feet but at the expense of mechanical problems, leaks, and needing more space to park when camping. Our goal was to have the eating area with bench on 3 sides and large windows surrounding. It's great for views when backing up to the ocean, a river or lake.
Agreed. Especially with systems of questionable design and construction quality - which I think describes much of the RV industry, I think the safest thing to do would be to aim for simplicity so as to reduce the likelihood of problems.
Then there is the question of how big the trailer/RV really needs to be inside anyway. Presumably the reason you're going camping is to experience the great outdoors, and that's best done by being outside the "home on wheels". :-)
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Then there is the question of how big the trailer/RV really needs to be inside anyway. ...
different strokes...
Many people LIVE in their RV
Others bring their kids, pets, kitchen sink...
Been camping (a lot) for 60+ yrs
No need for a slide (yet).
Our 20 mpg 22' RV fits one person very nicely. (2)... OK, but I often head out on my MC with a bedroll, then there is only need for housing (1) person
Keep peace in the family (and the RV)
I've enjoyed many evenings with friends in their RV's with slides.
Recliners, TV, couch... all the bells and whistles. That's fine (for them). and I'm glad they invited me in, especially when snowing or raining.
Why would they make it so heavy a 1 ton can't handle it? Or did they overload it?
That's one thing I noticed when shopping for 5th wheels, after you put water in, you only had 500lbs of cargo limit left. Which can add up crazy fast.
I've seen multiple RVing sites say that you should not travel with the water tanks filled, because of the weight involved.
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