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Old 08-25-2023, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Perth, Australia
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I have heard and read alot of negative things about the current Canadian prime minister and i have to ask why is he still so popular after creating such division in Canada?
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Old 08-25-2023, 10:30 PM
 
Location: Canada
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He's not popular in Canada.
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Old 08-25-2023, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Etobicoke
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The polls show the Conservatives leading.
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Old 08-26-2023, 12:17 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/afte...rper-1.6408865
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Old 08-26-2023, 12:54 AM
 
Location: Perth, Australia
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He's not popular in Canada.
He still has a 40% approval rating and is more popular than many of his predecessors. I don't get it?
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Old 08-26-2023, 01:25 AM
 
Location: Canada
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He still has a 40% approval rating and is more popular than many of his predecessors. I don't get it?
Well, look at who his competitors are. I think it is more about who they are than who he is, but that's just my gut feeling. It could also mean that some people will vote Liberal no matter what - we vote for a party not a Prime Minister so even if the Liberals win, it doesn't necessarily mean ending a term with the same Prime Minister.
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Old 08-26-2023, 03:25 AM
 
Location: Alberta, Canada
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Well, look at who his competitors are. I think it is more about who they are than who he is, but that's just my gut feeling. It could also mean that some people will vote Liberal no matter what - we vote for a party not a Prime Minister so even if the Liberals win, it doesn't necessarily mean ending a term with the same Prime Minister.
And that's key. We do not vote for a Prime Minister (okay, I know there are nitpickers who will say, "Well, those in his riding do," but they're not voting for a Prime Minister; they're voting for a Member of Parliament). Rather, we vote for parties.

And right now, the alternatives to Trudeau's Liberals are not terribly attractive. Conservative Pierre Poilevre, for all his folksy "I'm an adoptee from Calgary who played hockey as a kid" stuff, is a little too far right, in the Trumpist/QAnon mould, for most of us. Of course, that may change during an actual federal campaign and he is confronted with real, rubber-meets-the-road issues from Joe and Jane Average Canadian, but as we're two years away from such an election, it makes no difference now.

The NDP is splitting apart. One the one side are the younger faction: anti-capitalist, save the planet at all costs, more socialist programs; and on the other are older traditional NDP supporters: pro-capitalist, but very pro-worker through unions, and we all know that well-paid union members don't need socialism. And who the hell cares about a tree if cutting it down gives a union member an honest day's work for an honest day's pay? Singh walks a tightrope, and so far, he's been doing well and keeping his balance, but it's a precarious position to be in.

I agree with the poster upthread: Trudeau isn't popular. But right now, he's the lesser of all evils.
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Old 08-26-2023, 10:39 AM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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He was very popular when first elected at least in my circle. I haven’t voted for the federal liberals recently but I think it’s worth acknowledging the time he’s been our PM had been a very turbulent time around the world. Look how many PMs the UK has changed up over the same time period, for example. As much as he’s an easy scapegoat a lot of the hardships in this country are global economic problems everywhere and as PM he doesn’t have the sweeping powers to immediately fix them. Canada is doing better than a lot of places. I didn’t like how they handled the Canada Post strike a few years ago with the back to work legislation and I wish the federal government was doing more to help Ukraine, but I think it’s worth acknowledging the good things too, like legal cannabis and (for me) finally a carbon tax to incentivize carbon friendly business practices within a free market environment which if you want to do anything about climate change is the most conservative method of dealing with it, considering it was first proposed by right leaning figures like Preston Manning here and Margaret Thatcher in the UK. Long story short I’m not his biggest fan but I’ll still take him over the Conservatives any day
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Old 08-26-2023, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Canada
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I was just happy to get rid of Harper.
Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing and for the same reason.

(Attributed to Mark Twain)
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Old 08-26-2023, 11:41 AM
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Location: Ontario, Canada
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I was just happy to get rid of Harper.
Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing and for the same reason.

(Attributed to Mark Twain)
That was from Lord of the Rings. Gandalf I think.
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