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Old 06-08-2021, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Paradise
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Good advice! More people should heed it. If everyone drove and acted as if the person(s) in the other car were nuts and anxious to shoot anyone who pi$$e$ them off, then there would be a lot less road rage incidents. I ALWAYS drive and treat other people courteously because you just don't know who you're dealing with or what THEY may be dealing with.

Politeness is more than just good manners. It's a smart way to act. If a person wouldn't walk up to some big Biker dude in a bar and give him the finger, then they shouldn't do it from the PERCEIVED safety of their car... or anywhere for that matter. It's just not a smart way to act. Be mature enough and smart enough to not let life's little irritations cause you to do stupid stuff. Be the grownup in the room.
Fair enough...but that goes both ways.

People should also be mature enough and smart enough not to shoot someone for giving them a rude gesture.
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Old 06-08-2021, 12:09 PM
 
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Fair enough...but that goes both ways.

People should also be mature enough and smart enough not to shoot someone for giving them a rude gesture.
Of course! But each person can only control THEIR OWN actions. They can't control others. That's the whole point of my comments. You can't control others and don't know how they may act. So control yourself!
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Old 06-08-2021, 12:24 PM
 
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Thank God.
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Old 06-08-2021, 12:58 PM
 
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I don't know exactly what the charges against her are, but she was the getaway driver, after all,, so at a minimum she's an accessory after the fact.
That assumes she had a choice. If I’m with someone that shoots someone and orders me to drive, I’m driving.
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Old 06-08-2021, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Corona del Mar, CA - Coronado, CA
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Oh please, please, please send me a jury summons.......
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Old 06-08-2021, 04:42 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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Louis Shapiro, a criminal defense attorney in Los Angeles, said Monday that Orange County District Attorney Todd Spitzer was more likely to file a second-degree murder charge, which requires the prosecution to demonstrate to a jury that the shooter “acted deliberately with conscious disregard for human life.”

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...-any-one-of-us
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Old 06-08-2021, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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California did a study, only about 14% of those sentenced to death were ever executed. 85% died from other causes. There were millions of dolllars wasted on trials and appeals of people who were never going to be executed. California Law was a morass of appeals and trials that served no purpose but to pad legal fees. If California is ever to have a death penalty again they would need to start over with a new law. There are many other states in the same position
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Old 06-08-2021, 06:24 PM
 
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As heinous as this crime was, there's no way it would ever qualify for the death penalty anyway, even if California had one. Second degree murder is the max charge, IMO. The female driver will likely cop a plea and get a couple of years in some facility where she can get treatment for her mental problems.
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Old 06-08-2021, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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California did a study, only about 14% of those sentenced to death were ever executed. 85% died from other causes. There were millions of dolllars wasted on trials and appeals of people who were never going to be executed. California Law was a morass of appeals and trials that served no purpose but to pad legal fees. If California is ever to have a death penalty again they would need to start over with a new law. There are many other states in the same position

Exactly and not just in California. The death penalty here in the US is often misunderstood by a great many. It is not like the condemned person is led out to a gallows or shooting squad that afternoon after being found guilty in court. It is often a long and arduous process that is spilled over many years of long and costly trials and appeals to the extent that the death row inmate dies of natural or other causes while in prison.
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Old 06-08-2021, 07:59 PM
 
Location: NJ
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the US government is simply not morally in a position to put anyone to death. as the most evil entity on earth, deserving of the harshest punishments, it cant be trusted to appropriately carry out death sentences (neither can any state that volunarily associates with the US federal government).
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