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Old 03-22-2024, 03:00 PM
 
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A college degree isn't always necessary to land a lucrative job that can give you the lifestyle you want, one young entrepreneur firmly believes and shares with her followers on social media.TikTokers Hannah and Ryan Maruyama run the Degree Free Network, a podcast and consulting business to educate teens, families and job-seekers on alternatives to college degrees.

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"We actually make career roadmaps for 16 to 18-year-olds, so rising juniors and seniors," Maruyama explained to Fox News Digital. "The idea is to make sure that they are taking the right path for their education. And we delineate [between] ‘education’ and ‘college’ because they are two separate things. There is the ability to learn practical skills and to learn valuable educational skills without buying college degrees."
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College education isn't for everyone. There are very successful outcomes aot there
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Old 03-22-2024, 03:03 PM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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College education isn't for everyone. There are very successful outcomes aot there
True enough, college is NOT for everyone.

But the title "You don't need to go to college to find your dream job, 'degree free' entrepreneur says" then is incorrect.... if you dream job is being a doctor, being a lawyer. being an engineer, being a nurse, etc.
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Old 03-22-2024, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/yo...repreneur-saysPretty interesting


College education isn't for everyone. There are very successful outcomes aot there
In a sane world, High Schools would already fill this function, instead of acting like every single kid will be off to college. Leave it to the free market to do what the government schools are failing to do, but how many people can they reach and is it too late?

High schools all over America should be teaching this in Junior year.
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Old 03-22-2024, 03:16 PM
 
Location: WA
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What if my dream job is to be a neurosurgeon?

Can I do that without going to college?
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Old 03-22-2024, 03:20 PM
 
Location: WA
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In a sane world, High Schools would already fill this function, instead of acting like every single kid will be off to college. Leave it to the free market to do what the government schools are failing to do, but how many people can they reach and is it too late?

High schools all over America should be teaching this in Junior year.
That is what high schools are doing. Around here students have a vast array of options that are not all college prep.
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Old 03-22-2024, 03:28 PM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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In a sane world, High Schools would already fill this function, instead of acting like every single kid will be off to college.
Has always been an option in my area... vo-tech school are booming.
Do you not have any where you live?
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Old 03-22-2024, 08:07 PM
 
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Has always been an option in my area... vo-tech school are booming.
Do you not have any where you live?
In a lot of places vo-tech became a dirty word in school. The goal was pretty much college prep, even knowing that it wouldn't benefit a lot of students. Those students were kind of left to flounder on their own. School administrators were recognized and rewarded for the kids who went to college, not the ones who didn't. Now our current governor has changed that in the state policy to emphasize vo-tech once again. But for a long time, it was de-emphasized.
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Old 03-23-2024, 02:08 AM
 
Location: We_tside PNW (Columbia Gorge) / CO / SA TX / Thailand
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Has always been an option in my area... vo-tech school are booming.
Do you not have any where you live?
What % of the total HS enrollment is pursuing the equivalent of a 'certification' (career employment). Often vo-tech is an escape from the mundane (and disorderly) classroom. In a recent program, a 60yo coworker joined a local high rated Vo-tech program (and attended through 2 yr program of certification). Of 40 grads, 2 were 'placed', (took job offers). The majority were attending vo-tech, to avoid attending HS.

Vo-tech is important, and often is a lifeline - but not always a solution. Unfortunately, it is an element of the failed USA education system, and thus does not deliver employable candidates. It's just another way to spend money and get grants and tax revenue and perpetuate our failed system. Fortunately, there are some successes, and it is a way of getting exposure to what a student might not want to pursue as a career. That beats 16+ yrs of classroom attendance and $200k (personal $) spent, before discovering that!. (Public $$ wasted in 16+ yrs.... Yikes, don't ask... $16k*12 yrs at the moment - an additional $192k)

Or... There are alternatives. No School! Total aggregate cost for our kids was under $20k, including college. (Inexpensive state U's)

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Old 03-23-2024, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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In a sane world, High Schools would already fill this function, instead of acting like every single kid will be off to college. Leave it to the free market to do what the government schools are failing to do, but how many people can they reach and is it too late?

High schools all over America should be teaching this in Junior year.
How much do you really know about what "government schools" are currently doing? I worked in school construction. The high schools we built had classrooms designed and very well-equipped to house vocational programs.

However, a high school also needs to teach core curriculum. Every student should have basic math, English, science and history knowledge, no matter their future path. There is not enough time in the school year to be all things to all kids.

Students going into the vocations should be urged to further their training in community college and not expect a high school to be able to provide them with all of the skills they will need. I do agree that there should be exposure to the vocations in high school so that students are aware of the many choices they have for their futures. In Tennessee, community college is free.
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Old 03-23-2024, 08:16 AM
 
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https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/yo...repreneur-saysPretty interesting


College education isn't for everyone. There are very successful outcomes aot there
Judge Smails said it best:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiRGRvE_Wqg
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