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Old 12-21-2022, 01:03 PM
 
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Most immigrants in USA are from its closer neighbors latin americans, westeners and cristians in culture, secular in customs, speaking a latin european language that share its latin alphabet with the english language what helps a lot in reading and understanding even the ones who does not stud for be fluent in english.

Latin Americans who want getting in USA to work and enjoy the USA wealth and lifestyle, culture shock is minimal. Totally different people from the backwards muslim midset who are the majority of those arriving in Europe.
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Old 12-21-2022, 01:23 PM
 
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Most immigrants in USA are from its closer neighbors latin americans, westeners and cristians in culture, secular in customs, speaking a latin european language that share its latin alphabet with the english language what helps a lot in reading and understanding even the ones who does not stud for be fluent in english.

Latin Americans who want getting in USA to work and enjoy the USA wealth and lifestyle, culture shock is minimal. Totally different people from the backwards muslim midset who are the majority of those arriving in Europe.
I assume the immigrants the OP had in mind were Muslims and others from the Near/middle-East. Europe doesn't have many Latin American refugees and other immigrants pouring in, so a comparison of apples with oranges wouldn't make sense.

The Muslim immigrants in the US for the most part settle into communities near their compatriots, and work on getting jobs, learning English if necessary, and generally aiming to be productive. And they're assisted by their own community organizations.
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Old 12-21-2022, 04:56 PM
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Living in the USA, I have a different view on immigration into the USA than some Europeans here have. I don't understand European immigration, so I don't really comment on it; that doesn't seem to be the case with some Europeans posting about US immigration.

The US is a melting pot, but there are also distinct areas where specific groups congregate. There are parts of Florida, New Jersey, New York, and the states that border Mexico where Spanish will be the first language you hear spoken in shops and restaurants. In the US, you will find Little Italy in many cities, Chinatown, Little Havana, and so on. If you go to parts of Pennsylvania, families speak Pennsylvania Dutch at home (it isn't Dutch, but a modified version of German). Deerfield, Michigan is a Muslim-majority city, there is a town near where I live that is 45% Indian (likely due to the Hindu temple in the area). There are areas in New York that are mainly Jewish, and so on. The same applies in the border states, where Latino immigrants who are fluent in Spanish will congregate.

My point is, yes the USA is a melting pot. But the first generation of immigrants doesn't always assimilate as much as the second or third; it just takes time. But while that is happening, the culture they bring with them is also being assimilated into the US. Heck, the US is more into Cinco de Mayo than Mexico is, from what I've been told.
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Old 12-21-2022, 06:32 PM
 
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There is no official language in the US.

How do low skilled workers immigrate to the US?
Philippines and Indians are a good example of what Evangelistii and Chrish78 were saying. Filipinos are one of the largest U.S. immigrant groups, and until WW2 it was an American colony. They have lots of exposure to the U.S. Navy, are Christian, commonly hold nursing jobs, and integrate easily into American culture. India was a British colony until 1947, and English is the common language for communication between different states of India. Highway signs worldwide, airport signs worldwide, and air traffic control conversations are in English or are bilingual.

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Old 12-21-2022, 07:08 PM
 
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The US is a melting pot, but there are also distinct areas where specific groups congregate.
Other examples are the Portuguese in Newark NJ and in Rhode Island, southeast Mass. and Cape Cod....Somalis in Minneapolis and in Maine.... Croatians in Utica NY,....
Indians around Metropark in central New Jersey.... Ethiopians around Wash. D.C. and Houston.
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Old 12-21-2022, 07:14 PM
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Other examples are the Portuguese in Newark NJ and in Rhode Island, southeast Mass. and Cape Cod....Somalis in Minneapolis and in Maine.... Croatians in Utica NY,....
Indians around Metropark in central New Jersey.... Ethiopians around Wash. D.C. and Houston.
Yeah. And that doesn't even touch on tribal nations and their lands, which form sovereign nations in the lower 48 US states. Navajo, Apache, Cherokee, Flatheads, Sioux, and many more (there are 574 different tribal nations). It is even more complex when you get to Alaska.
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Old 12-22-2022, 02:20 AM
 
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This is funny, considering the US is the country of neighborhoods like "Chinatown" where some more, some less integrated Chinese mostly live for themselves in a parallel society for generations or the many "no-go areas" where a white person should not take a walk alone. And what about all these white Americans who think they are Irish or Italian just because of their last names and ancestry (oh and because they celebrate St. Patrick's Day)? You see, this goes both ways. I know numerous well-assimilated immigrants in the UK or Germany, other Europeans as well as non-Europeans. You cannot really messure "assimilation" so it is all conjecture and I am not sure a total assimilation is always the thing to strive for.
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Old 12-22-2022, 07:50 AM
 
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Philippines and Indians are a good example of what Evangelistii and Chrish78 were saying. Filipinos are one of the largest U.S. immigrant groups, and until WW2 it was an American colony. They have lots of exposure to the U.S. Navy, are Christian, commonly hold nursing jobs, and integrate easily into American culture. India was a British colony until 1947, and English is the common language for communication between different states of India. Highway signs worldwide, airport signs worldwide, and air traffic control conversations are in English or are bilingual.
What do Indian air traffic controllers have to do with how low skilled workers immigrate to the US?
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Old 12-22-2022, 08:20 AM
 
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I assume the immigrants the OP had in mind were Muslims and others from the Near/middle-East. Europe doesn't have many Latin American refugees and other immigrants pouring in, so a comparison of apples with oranges wouldn't make sense.

The Muslim immigrants in the US for the most part settle into communities near their compatriots, and work on getting jobs, learning English if necessary, and generally aiming to be productive. And they're assisted by their own community organizations.
Muslims arriving in the US arrive by plane, with some kind of prior visa. People who achieve this are well educated and at least middle class in their home countries.

We are comparing mass immigration, of poor, poorly educated people with no money, who arrive at the borders on foot, entering illegally or requesting refuge.

In the US they are Latin Americans and in Europe they are mostly Muslims from Africa and the Middle East.

Why is assimilation in the US so much easier? Because even though they are poorly educated, Latinos are from a similar culture.

An Latin men will not be impressed or find it sinful Americans girls walking around without a headscarf or in short clothes, in bikinis... they are used to seeing hot Latinas walking the same way since they were born as an example.
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