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Old 04-06-2024, 12:32 AM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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Unless you are 100% obsessed with it (and maybe medicated) you'll go nowhere after 30 or so.
That is a foolish and ignorant opinion which has been refuted over and over again by older people who have gone somewhere with training without being obsessed. And thirty is quite young actually.
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Old 04-06-2024, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Formerly Pleasanton Ca, now in Marietta Ga
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Unless you are 100% obsessed with it (and maybe medicated) you'll go nowhere after 30 or so.
Not sure why you would say this. Sounds very negative.
I gained strength and muscle after 30 for all these years and I’m now 66.
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Old 04-06-2024, 12:11 PM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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Unless you are 100% obsessed with it (and maybe medicated) you'll go nowhere after 30 or so.
At 69 I doubt I would be motivated to keep lifting if I didn't continue to build muscle and gain strength.
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Old 04-06-2024, 01:41 PM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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It seems counterintuitive that you could continue to get stronger into middle and even old age.

I would have thought that the peak years would be similar to what we see in other athletics, namely 25-35 yo.

Are there successful competitive weight lifters well past those ages, beating out younger men and women?
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Old 04-06-2024, 06:40 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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It seems counterintuitive that you could continue to get stronger into middle and even old age.

I would have thought that the peak years would be similar to what we see in other athletics, namely 25-35 yo.

Are there successful competitive weight lifters well past those ages, beating out younger men and women?
This thread is more about people who have never followed a resistance training program before. In this case (and we should add, with a doctor's approval) they can gain muscle and strength no matter their age.

Or probably, if you've been training improperly, inefficiently, or half-heartedly for many years, you could probably make gains by changing your routines.
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Old 04-06-2024, 06:43 PM
 
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Ha, NO!!!. My personal goal is to keep increasing in strength to become as strong as is possible for me. None of this 'maintaining adequate strength.' That may be fine for you, but never for me.

If you choose to dismiss the video without even watching it, that's your choice. But it has good information.
It wasn't exactly a revelation.

Summary: a study of 29 old folks showed that people in their 70's and 80's can add muscle mass through resistance training exercises. Oh, and and he offers longevity training for people who are impressed by his vast knowledge. That was 1/10th of the video.

Here is the study.

https://journals.humankinetics.com/v...rticle-p11.xml

Oh and that picture of him without his shirt is gross lol. Fortunately it's not part of the video
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Old 04-07-2024, 12:41 PM
 
Location: A coal patch in Pennsyltucky
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This thread is more about people who have never followed a resistance training program before. In this case (and we should add, with a doctor's approval) they can gain muscle and strength no matter their age.

Or probably, if you've been training improperly, inefficiently, or half-heartedly for many years, you could probably make gains by changing your routines.
I don't understand your comment that, "this thread is more about people who have never followed a resistance training program before." I'm one of the posters. I started seriously lifting weights in high school in the early 70s. I actually did some lifting in 6th grade. I lifted in college and belonged to several gyms when I started in working in the late 70s and 80s. Working and children got in the way in the way from around 1986 to 1994. I've been working out consistently again since 1994. A guy at my gym is 72 and says he has been lifting for decades.
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Old 04-07-2024, 01:16 PM
 
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I don't understand your comment that, "this thread is more about people who have never followed a resistance training program before." I'm one of the posters. I started seriously lifting weights in high school in the early 70s. I actually did some lifting in 6th grade. I lifted in college and belonged to several gyms when I started in working in the late 70s and 80s. Working and children got in the way in the way from around 1986 to 1994. I've been working out consistently again since 1994. A guy at my gym is 72 and says he has been lifting for decades.

Because nothing in that video or the (small) linked study suggests that older people can keep adding more muscle and more and more and more.



It simply shows that older people can, indeed, add muscle mass. If you are already in great shape it doesn't mean you can keep getting stronger and stronger forever. That's wishful thinking.
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Old 04-07-2024, 02:05 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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It wasn't exactly a revelation.

Summary: a study of 29 old folks showed that people in their 70's and 80's can add muscle mass through resistance training exercises. Oh, and and he offers longevity training for people who are impressed by his vast knowledge. That was 1/10th of the video.

Here is the study.

https://journals.humankinetics.com/v...rticle-p11.xml

Oh and that picture of him without his shirt is gross lol. Fortunately it's not part of the video
Well, if you think his physique is gross, that's your opinion.
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Old 04-07-2024, 02:28 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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Because nothing in that video or the (small) linked study suggests that older people can keep adding more muscle and more and more and more.



It simply shows that older people can, indeed, add muscle mass. If you are already in great shape it doesn't mean you can keep getting stronger and stronger forever. That's wishful thinking.
So what are you griping about? Neither the video nor I have suggested infinite strength progression. However, the sport of powerlifting has seniors or masters categories and some pretty impressive numbers exist in the lifts for seniors.

There aren’t official categories for people over 70 and 80 in many competitions since they are usually included in the 60+ category. But here are a couple of impressive lifts in these age groups:

Ash Sinclairs 135 kg bench press world record for the up to 82,5 kg class. That’s about 298 lbs with a bodyweight of about 180. At that weight at the age of 71 that’s pretty incredible.

Phil Poppinos 330 lbs bench press at the age of 80 is even more incredible.

https://elderstrength.com/senior-bench-press-records/
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