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The so-called "Civil War" was about tariffs and states rights and only tangentially about slavery. The politicians were as full of crap in 1861 as they are today.
Go back and read the actual articles of secession written by the Southern states.
As opposed to the smear-job article cited in INDIAN COUNTRY TODAY? Could it possibly contain a "bit of bias" as well?
Do you seriously need for me to copy the list of sources used for that article and post them here for you? The list that I already provided you?
And yet, you did not ask for any sources for the article that supports your own point of view, nor show an equal skepticism for it. You are demonstrating your own bias. Additionaly, the unwarranted use of the word "smear-job" further betrays one's bias.
You really need to read the Helpful Guidelines (posted as a sticky at the top of this forum) so that you can learn what debate is. Either present your facts to back up your assertions or take your opinions to the Politics & Other Controversies forum. This is the Debate forum.
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I've always wondered why Columbus gets more importance than others like Amerigo Vespucci for whom the continents of the western hemisphere are named? Columbus never set foot on the mainland, didn't even realize it was there. There's also evidence that the Norse visited before him.
Sure, you can call it a liberal, conservative thing, but in reality, it's showing racists they no longer have any power in America. It seems being a Liberal is being on the right side of history.
Tearing down statues doesn't do anything of the kind. It is an act of vindictiveness which only serves to increase the polarization of America.
Many believe the whipped up frenzy of mob violence is the result of outside influences seeking to destroy American strength. Russia, for example, has had a long history of disinformation campaigns.
Will destroying vestiges of America's history make past slavery go away? Of course not! If it did, we would all be in favor of it.
Trashing the memories of our past presidents for participating in activities that have now been deemed unacceptable helps no one. They were human, and humans make mistakes. All of us!
Speaking of Orwell. They are taking down HIS statue too. No one really knows why.
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Because the founders of the hoped-for New Soviet Union despise all truth-tellers.
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Compelling evidence? Do you think there might be a bit of bias in an article published by the National Christopher Columbus Association?
Right -- There are different voices but there is "a bit of bias" surrounding this entire topic. You can pick and choose your experts. Everybody has an opinion after 528 years but un-twisted facts are sparse. It is hard to know about one individual's intentions or actions after so many people have weighed in on the guy. Given only the facts that we know for certain, he did something worth remembering. A few less statues won't matter that much. He's dead and won't care.
As opposed to the smear-job article cited in INDIAN COUNTRY TODAY? Could it possibly contain a "bit of bias" as well?
Did I say the other article would have no bias? No, I did not. What I pointed out was that you act as if an article by a society that pushes the Columbus story is the bottom line.
I lived in the Washington, D.C. area for most of my life. And from time to time I would go to lectures -- free lectures -- at the Smithsonian (and other venues, as well). I imagine that there are quite a few people in the greater D.C. area who would support Columbus statues as you do. But if one of those free lectures on a Saturday was about Columbus, almost none of those supporters would go and listen to the lecture. When it comes right down to it, and you take the culture wars out of it, virtually no one gives a flying fart about Columbus.
He never even set foot on North American soil.
He "discovered" various Caribbean islands.
And your average Columbus statue lover couldn't pass a simple quiz about the man.
This is about culture wars and nothing else.
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