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Old 01-28-2018, 03:28 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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I quote from your first link: "The flu vaccines used in China, which are recommended by the World Health Organization, can prevent three strains - H1N1, H3N2 and B/Victoria - the dominant strains in the previous years. However, they have limited effect against B/Yamagata.
"The dominant strains for each year may be different, and it is expected B/Yamagata will not be the dominant strain for flu outbreaks in the next one or two years," Mr. Feng said.
The Chinese CDC is encouraging the development of vaccines that can prevent all four strains, and it is expected that at least one company on the mainland will be able to produce such vaccines by the fall, he said."

To me that sounds as if they do have their own program. It would not surprise me if they are also not looking for the Holly Grail - one shot for all strains. I am sure they are following the work at Georgia State University and other research facilities around the world. They are pretty good at taking the best ideas and developing them.

 
Old 01-28-2018, 06:05 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I will note we've had quadrivalent vaccine here in the US for several years now. Doesn't sound to me like they're ahead of us.

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Old 01-28-2018, 07:02 AM
 
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I wonder how the flu virus will react and mutate in response to this type of vaccine.
 
Old 01-28-2018, 07:58 AM
 
Location: ☀️ SFL (hell for me-wife loves it)
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Are the cells from flies? I just ask because very common, quick lifespan. Easy to sterilize?
 
Old 01-28-2018, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Are the cells from flies? I just ask because very common, quick lifespan. Easy to sterilize?
I believe the Protein Sciences cells are from moths. But I am not sure; I think my son researched it and told me that. I found this link that gives a little more information (but not the kind of insect): BEVS Platform Technology. Here is one more link that I did not see the type of insect; but it goes into more detail: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10...-540-68182-3_6.

Here is one last link that talks about the FDA licensing and goes into further detail of the process (but no insect named): FDA approves first flu vaccine grown in insect cells | CIDRAP.
 
Old 01-28-2018, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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I will note we've had quadrivalent vaccine here in the US for several years now. Doesn't sound to me like they're ahead of us.
It doesn't take them long to get ahead of us if they put their mind to it - different form of government.
 
Old 01-28-2018, 12:16 PM
 
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I wonder how the flu virus will react and mutate in response to this type of vaccine.
Good question?
 
Old 01-28-2018, 01:54 PM
 
Location: ☀️ SFL (hell for me-wife loves it)
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I believe the Protein Sciences cells are from moths.
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Thank you fisheye. If not flies, and you think moths, why moths? It certainly sounds like a cleaner insect, and I want to learn

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Old 01-28-2018, 02:33 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Thank you fisheye. If not flies, and you think moths, why moths? It certainly sounds like a cleaner insect, and I want to learn
Our son said that he was familiar with baculovirus expression. I just bugged him for more information and he looked again and gave me this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_armyworm. Then he lost me in the explanation!
 
Old 01-28-2018, 02:35 PM
 
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You have yourself quite an intelligent son, Sir fisheye. Yes, a very common moth, I wonder if that has anything to do with it as well?
Thank you for the link.
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