'A Few Mutations Away': The Threat of a Vaccine-Proof Variant (cold, symptoms)
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Right, there was a July 4th outbreak in Cape Cod and rapid transmission among vaccinated people. Prior to this, the data suggested that the vaccines stopped transmission so mask and distancing guidelines were dropped in May for vaccinated people. This new data prompted the CDC to reverse those guidelines a couple of days ago. Walensky said that another driver for the reversal was the discovery that viral load in the vaccinated people was similar to viral load in unvaccinated people.
What's the illness rate and severity in vaccinated people? What are the hospitalization rates and death rates for vaccinated people?
I expect all sorts of variants over the months and years. I also expect (and am glad to see happening) the death and hospitalization rates to go down, especially among those vaccinated.
But, I expect, among the unvaccinated, rates to keep going up. Imagine this fall or winter.
Interesting - that's basically what I heard. What I took away before I was vaccinated in March was that the vaccine does not prevent all illness or all transmission but it provides some additional protection.
March 2021 is not 2020, and no they were never saying it prevented "all" infections but the original goal was 75% effectiveness and were willing to approve 50% effectiveness. Note in the announcements below they did not say "mitigate" covid they said "prevent" covid, and they did not say reduced the risk of "serious effect" but of "infection".
New York City-based drug company Pfizer made the announcement on 9 November. It offers the first compelling evidence that a vaccine can prevent COVID-19 — and bodes well for other COVID-19 vaccines in development. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03166-8
The Moderna vaccine reduced the risk of Covid-19 infection by 94.5%. There were 95 cases of infection among patients in the company’s 30,000-patient study. Only five of them occurred in patients who developed Covid-19 after receiving Moderna’s vaccine, mRNA-1273. https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/16/...-at-data-show/
The variant that punches through our vaccines apparently is Lambda. Personally I think I am done with getting vaccinated. I got jabbed because I believed that doing so would prevent me from getting really ill from covid and would help end the pandemic. If it best it gives you a few months of protection and nothing more I don't see the point. For me the risk of all these booster shots doing something we are not aware of yet becomes a bigger possibility.
The Lambda variant belongs to the C.37 lineage, which has been newly designated as a VOI on June 14, 2021, by WHO. This variant is predominantly spreading in South American countries that include Chile, Peru, Argentina, and Ecuador. According to the Global Initiative on Sharing All Influenza Data (GISAID) database, the Lambda variant has been reported in 26 countries worldwide.
The rate of vaccination has been notably high in Chile. A recent study conducted in Chile has shown that around 60% of the population have received at least a single dose of the COVID-19 vaccine. Recently, during the spring of 2021, a rapid surge in COVID-19 cases was observed in Chile. This is because the Lambda variant is capable of escaping the immune responses induced via vaccination.
Unfortunately, Lambda is sneaking across our southern border with all the illegal immigrants!
In UK the ratio is 12:13 last report, in Singapore the ratio is already skewed toward more infections amongst those with the mitigative shots than those without.
The UK expects the ratio to skew in a few days or weeks.
That's just one factor, among many.
Point is, though, by now it is clear that the mitigative shots provide dubious and waning protection against infection, though so far apparently still highly effective against hospitalization and death.
So there's that too.
Good Luck!
The key is preventing hospitalizations...Let's pray that stands!
Unfortunately, right now, that is the best we can hope for with this miserable disease.
The CDC said that infections with the Delta variant lead more often to severe illness. That fact was already known, and has nothing to do with whether the infection was in or came from a vaccinated person with a breakthrough case.
True, but vaccinated people have lest serious disease requiring no hospitalization
What's the illness rate and severity in vaccinated people? What are the hospitalization rates and death rates for vaccinated people?
Versus unvaccinated people? The CDC is supposed to release more today but apparently it deemed it enough to reverse the guidelines.
About a month ago, CDC officials said that breakthrough infections were understated because some hospitals are less aggressive in looking for these cases, and some states don't report on this at all.
It's common for viruses to naturally become more contagious but less dangerous. The virus has mainly mutated about the spike protein RBD to evade defenses that it's encountered.
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"We've gone through a few mutations already that have been named, and each one of them gets a little more transmissible," he said. "That's normal, natural selection and what you would expect to happen as viruses mutate from one strain to another."
To date, the virus has mutated into seven major strains. Reuters analyzed more than 185,000 genome samples from the Global Initiative on Sharing All Influenza Data (GISAID). This is the largest database of novel coronavirus genome sequences, and the analysis was conducted to determine how the major strains around the world have shifted over time.
The danger with the virus is that it tends to spread where people aren't taking protective measures, such as vaccinations or avoiding superspreader activities. Also, it's now nearly 9 months since the most vulnerable started receiving shots.
You have to realize that each passing year that Covid stays around the people that are now saying it doesn't affect me will be one year older and their immune system more vulnerable to a moderate or severe case. That is, unless it goes back to being like SARS and becomes dormant.
I am sure all of the legal immigrants and legal citizens don't carry the virus. It's just the illegals right?
Its amazing how that works.
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