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Old 11-07-2009, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Bike to Surf!
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Can you remember how to spell that?

Often it is the US spouse who fills out paperwork, opens bank accounts, signs lease agreements, marriage liscenses, etc. If you don't make a habit of signing documents in your spouse's name, it can be difficult to remember how to spell it if it is in foreign characters. It is something that an interviewee should practice beforehand--and spelling the names of both parents of the spouse (as well as their birthplaces and birthdays)--but it is certainly not an indication of marriage fraud. In fact, those who are in a fraudulent marriage will be coached and practiced in these easy, straightforward questions.

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Watch the movie "Proposal" you will find a lot of your answers in there and you will have fun while watching it.

More and more marriage visa are denied because many are just scam's. If yours is legitimate you will have an easy time proving so...

Usually people who are scarred not to pass the interview on this visa, have something to hide...JMO
This is nonsense. Immigration issues are not a Hollywood movie. Everyone who goes in for an immigration interview should be very wary, considering the gravity of the situation. Please don't offer an opinion or advice if you have no idea what you are talking about. It is misleading to those who come here for legitimate advice.

Furthermore, your previous post has no purpose but to personally insult the questioner. Please review the terms of service of this site. You are not welcome to post useless and offensive messages like that one in this forum.
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Old 11-08-2009, 03:11 PM
 
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Have you even seen the movie? I guess not...so please save your insults for your self!

I have a lot of knowledge about GC applications and heard enough about the interviews and have been at USCIS myself.

On other visa related forums you can read a lot about people who are asking questions about marriage and obtaining a GC and most (most means not all!!!) people who start to ask the questions are affraid something will be discovered. People who have serious relationships and serious marriages aren't so scared for the interview because all questions can be answered if you know each other and know each other families, which is totally normal to know...all fake mariage applicants have no clue what the family relations are and some don't even know their spouses nicknames....

Actually "the Proposal" is a comedy with a serious note and gives you in a funny way a sense of how an interview can go and that if you aren't a serious candidate you will not pass...


But on the other hand some people don't have humor in their life and rather insult others....

The OP asked if anybody heard of people who were denied a GC and on another forum people have written about denials...some because of not having enough proof, funds, or not being eligible, etc...one was denied a GC under the DV program due to his English wasn't good enough since he needed to obtain a license for his profesion which USCIS decided he wouldn't be able to pass with the limited amount of English, and not having a HS diploma just being eligible through a job which he couldn't perform with no license and that way the person would become a liability.
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Old 11-08-2009, 09:14 PM
 
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Can you remember how to spell that?
Often it is the US spouse who fills out paperwork, opens bank accounts, signs lease agreements, marriage liscenses, etc. If you don't make a habit of signing documents in your spouse's name, it can be difficult to remember how to spell it if it is in foreign characters. It is something that an interviewee should practice beforehand--and spelling the names of both parents of the spouse (as well as their birthplaces and birthdays)--but it is certainly not an indication of marriage fraud. In fact, those who are in a fraudulent marriage will be coached and practiced in these easy, straightforward questions.

This is nonsense. Immigration issues are not a Hollywood movie. Everyone who goes in for an immigration interview should be very wary, considering the gravity of the situation. Please don't offer an opinion or advice if you have no idea what you are talking about. It is misleading to those who come here for legitimate advice.

Furthermore, your previous post has no purpose but to personally insult the questioner. Please review the terms of service of this site. You are not welcome to post useless and offensive messages like that one in this forum.
Good post.

But the movie "Proposal" was pretty funny. And the questions are indicatative of familiarity.
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Old 11-08-2009, 09:52 PM
 
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I've seen the movie and I enjoyed it.

As for the uncalled-for post: I was speaking about the snarky one-line post prior to the movie post, which had no merit except to encourage fear in the person coming here for advice.

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...most (most means not all!!!) people who start to ask the questions are affraid something will be discovered. People who have serious relationships and serious marriages aren't so scared for the interview because all questions can be answered if you know each other and know each other families, which is totally normal to know...all fake mariage applicants have no clue what the family relations are and some don't even know their spouses nicknames....
This isn't a good excuse to come on a non-debate forum and start abusing posters based on legitimate questions. It's also a lousy premise to operate on. You might believe you have spotted marriage fraud, but you are not an immigration official, and the TOS of this site prohibit you from abusive behaviour.

Furthermore, I disagree that most people asking questions about what they will face in their interview are worried about being "discovered". Anyone who has exposure to the immigration process recognizes that a single ornery immigration officer can use any excuse to derail the life of a petitioner, their spouse, and their families. Understandably, those who do their homework and realize the gravity of the petitioning process will be concerned and try to get all the information they can.
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Old 11-09-2009, 08:31 AM
 
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The OP asked if anybody heard of people who were denied a GC and on another forum people have written about denials...some because of not having enough proof, funds, or not being eligible, etc...one was denied a GC under the DV program due to his English wasn't good enough since he needed to obtain a license for his profesion which USCIS decided he wouldn't be able to pass with the limited amount of English, and not having a HS diploma just being eligible through a job which he couldn't perform with no license and that way the person would become a liability.
If lack of English language was the reason for denial of his diversity GC - he will own the US. HS equivalent is a requirement listed on the diversity lottery application. OK, you can carry on that he was not eligible to start with so why did he get as far as an interview - again language barrieres, interpretation of foreign school system ...
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Old 11-09-2009, 10:49 AM
 
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If lack of English language was the reason for denial of his diversity GC - he will own the US. HS equivalent is a requirement listed on the diversity lottery application. OK, you can carry on that he was not eligible to start with so why did he get as far as an interview - again language barrieres, interpretation of foreign school system ...
The person I refered to stated he didn't have a HS diploma just the job requirement, but USCIS stated during his interview that due to his limited English he wouldn't be able to obtain the license in the US to perform his job and was denied...this person was asking for help and most poster advised him to go back to school or get more English education specialized towards his job.


English abroad is just the regular English which doesn't mention any translation for specific things which is very useful for a particular job.
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Old 11-15-2009, 09:33 PM
 
Location: Pa
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First of all I have yet to have an issue with immigration in regards to my wife or her family coming here for a visit.
The reasons one can be denied?
Criminal record
false or inaccurate information on the application.
If the sponsor has a history or is unable to financially support the applicant.
Some would have us believe that the interviewer does a gut check and approves or disapproves based on a feeling. NOT TRUE.
I have heard of K-1's being disapproved when the sponsor did not speak the applicants language and the applicant did not speak English.
LOL in most cases the woman was a former prostitute with a record.
The system is redundant and tedious. It pays to be very accurate check and recheck your work... Even a small discrepancy can hurt you. Word to the wise if you are denied it will make it that much more difficult to get approved...
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:01 AM
 
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Some would have us believe that the interviewer does a gut check and approves or disapproves based on a feeling. NOT TRUE.
Sure, as in the case where the interviewer wrote (as justification for sending the case for fraud review) that the couple "appear too be too familiar with each other" -- literal wording on the document. Now there's an analytical judgement!

The truth is that your case can be pended, denied, or delayed for any reason. The majority aren't. Most cases go perfectly smoothly. But don't expect flowers and sunshine from USCIS simply because you are following the letter and spirit of the law. The organization's purpose is to prevent [some] people from immigrating. Pure and simple. They're not the Fire Department, they don't rescue kittens from trees in their spare time.

A helpful metaphore: The police department is an agency which both enforces the law and aids people in trouble. If you see an officer, you can expect to safely ask him for directions or report suspicious behaviour so long as you're not carrying an illegal substance or otherwise breaking the law. USCIS, on the other hand is an enforcement agency only, like a US army checkpoint; keep your hands visibile and try to get through without being shot, even if you're not carrying any contraband.

When you interact with them you must be aware that they are a screening agency looking for reasons to deny your petition. They don't give you helpful assimilation advice, language lessons, housing tips. They deny or approve your paperwork and then enforce the appropriate regulations. That's it.
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Old 11-16-2009, 09:24 AM
 
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Sure, as in the case where the interviewer wrote (as justification for sending the case for fraud review) that the couple "appear too be too familiar with each other" -- literal wording on the document. Now there's an analytical judgement!

The truth is that your case can be pended, denied, or delayed for any reason. The majority aren't. Most cases go perfectly smoothly. But don't expect flowers and sunshine from USCIS simply because you are following the letter and spirit of the law. The organization's purpose is to prevent [some] people from immigrating. Pure and simple. USCIS, on the other hand is an enforcement agency only, like a US army checkpoint; keep your hands visibile and try to get through without being shot, even if you're not carrying any contraband.

When you interact with them you must be aware that they are a screening agency looking for reasons to deny your petition. They don't give you helpful assimilation advice, language lessons, housing tips. They deny or approve your paperwork and then enforce the appropriate regulations. That's it.
You nailed it...USCIS is just looking for a reason to deny a person...like innocent until proven guilty...in this case...they are looking for the guilty part!
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Old 11-16-2009, 01:36 PM
 
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Sure, as in the case where the interviewer wrote (as justification for sending the case for fraud review) that the couple "appear too be too familiar with each other" -- literal wording on the document. Now there's an analytical judgement!

The truth is that your case can be pended, denied, or delayed for any reason. The majority aren't. Most cases go perfectly smoothly. But don't expect flowers and sunshine from USCIS simply because you are following the letter and spirit of the law. The organization's purpose is to prevent [some] people from immigrating. Pure and simple. They're not the Fire Department, they don't rescue kittens from trees in their spare time.

A helpful metaphore: The police department is an agency which both enforces the law and aids people in trouble. If you see an officer, you can expect to safely ask him for directions or report suspicious behaviour so long as you're not carrying an illegal substance or otherwise breaking the law. USCIS, on the other hand is an enforcement agency only, like a US army checkpoint; keep your hands visible and try to get through without being shot, even if you're not carrying any contraband.

When you interact with them you must be aware that they are a screening agency looking for reasons to deny your petition. They don't give you helpful assimilation advice, language lessons, housing tips. They deny or approve your paperwork and then enforce the appropriate regulations. That's it.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion. In my experience and I have sponsored 6 different people none of which were a problem, I have found the staff at the embassy very friendly. USCIS for the most part is a faceless org. It is there job to look for discrepancies. I expect them to deny some applicants. Do misses happen? Its the government what would anyone expect? Civil service seldom if ever hires the most competent add to this the PC environment. VISA's are denied everyday and I would wager 99% for very good reasons. I also keep in mind that this country owes no one a VISA. Just as individuals we are not compelled to allow just anyone into our homes.
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