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Old 11-16-2022, 02:22 PM
 
Location: New York City
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You must not have paid attention to what Villanueva had done in the past four years. Understandable, since you live in Idaho.

[i]Perhaps Luna’s most immediate challenge will be moving the department beyond the turmoil caused by Villanueva’s combative approach....
The turmoil?

The turmoil is because the entire city and state are fully entrenched in a perpetrator-first mentality and irrational-empathy mode for the homeless as opposed to victim-first and quality of life-fist mentality. The Democrat party in general has lost its mind by pandering to the ideologues coming out of our University system and chasing mega donor funding from people who are trying to reshape society towards a bizarre utopian vision.

The LA Sheriff is autonomous from the politicians so he does not have to answer to them. Villanueva was being hard on the homeless and on arresting criminals, even if LA District Attorney Gascon let them out on the street the same day and never filed charges.

That was the turmoil the LA Times speaks of
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Old 11-16-2022, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Ca expat loving Idaho
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The turmoil?

The turmoil is because the entire city and state are fully entrenched in a perpetrator-first mentality and irrational-empathy mode for the homeless as opposed to victim-first and quality of life-fist mentality. The Democrat party in general has lost its mind by pandering to the ideologues coming out of our University system and chasing mega donor funding from people who are trying to reshape society towards a bizarre utopian vision.

The LA Sheriff is autonomous from the politicians so he does not have to answer to them. Villanueva was being hard on the homeless and on arresting criminals, even if LA District Attorney Gascon let them out on the street the same day and never filed charges.

That was the turmoil the LA Times speaks of
Yes there’s no hope controlling the homeless situation there now. Villanueva was the only one trying.
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Old 11-16-2022, 04:04 PM
 
Location: So Ca
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The LA Sheriff is autonomous from the politicians so he does not have to answer to them.
The politicians didn't vote Villanueva out.

‘The sheriff who went rogue’: Alex Villanueva’s scandal-plagued tenure ends in LA:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...es-robert-luna

"If Villanueva had stuck to his campaign slogan from four years ago — “Reform. Rebuild. Restore” — he could’ve transformed the position of sheriff in a county where his predecessors long ruled with an iron fist and lead bullets. He promised to drain the swamp in a department still reeling from the corruption of the Lee Baca years.

Instead, Villanueva rewarded the swamp — and then became the swamp itself.

He rehired a deputy fired by McDonnell for allegations of domestic violence against a fellow deputy, a move a Superior Court judge ruled was “unlawful.” He tried to roll back reforms to clamp down on abusive deputies in the county jails. He allowed the East Los Angeles sheriff’s station to plaster on its windows a logo that McDonnell had banned. It featured the name of a John Wayne movie — “Fort Apache,” which happens to be about a lonely military outpost surrounded by hostile Indians.

That was just the first few months of Villanueva’s reign...."


https://www.latimes.com/california/s...rellano-column
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Old 11-16-2022, 04:12 PM
 
Location: New York City
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The politicians didn't vote Villanueva out.

‘The sheriff who went rogue’: Alex Villanueva’s scandal-plagued tenure ends in LA:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...es-robert-luna

"If Villanueva had stuck to his campaign slogan from four years ago — “Reform. Rebuild. Restore” — he could’ve transformed the position of sheriff in a county where his predecessors long ruled with an iron fist and lead bullets. He promised to drain the swamp in a department still reeling from the corruption of the Lee Baca years.

Instead, Villanueva rewarded the swamp — and then became the swamp itself.

He rehired a deputy fired by McDonnell for allegations of domestic violence against a fellow deputy, a move a Superior Court judge ruled was “unlawful.” He tried to roll back reforms to clamp down on abusive deputies in the county jails. He allowed the East Los Angeles sheriff’s station to plaster on its windows a logo that McDonnell had banned. It featured the name of a John Wayne movie — “Fort Apache,” which happens to be about a lonely military outpost surrounded by hostile Indians.

That was just the first few months of Villanueva’s reign...."


https://www.latimes.com/california/s...rellano-column
Who says the politicians voted him out? They didn't, but they sure wanted to and I believe they just passed a law that now allows the LA county board of supervisors to vote out future Sheriffs against the voter's wishes, as Democrats are consolidating power everywhere they can lately.

This whole song and dance above about corruption is a distraction from the fact that he is the type to enforce the law instead of looking the other way like the LAPD these days. Luna is an establishment guy and he's going to play ball, not the least reason is they can now kick him out any time they want after "Measure A" was approved.

Good luck with your city, it's about to get a whole lot worse. I don't understand why people vote for these types of policies but I mean you're going to get what you voted for so the system is working as intended. The ones who are getting out voted should probably start thinking about moving if they haven't started already
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Old 11-19-2022, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Ca expat loving Idaho
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The politicians didn't vote Villanueva out.

‘The sheriff who went rogue’: Alex Villanueva’s scandal-plagued tenure ends in LA:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...es-robert-luna

"If Villanueva had stuck to his campaign slogan from four years ago — “Reform. Rebuild. Restore” — he could’ve transformed the position of sheriff in a county where his predecessors long ruled with an iron fist and lead bullets. He promised to drain the swamp in a department still reeling from the corruption of the Lee Baca years.

Instead, Villanueva rewarded the swamp — and then became the swamp itself.

He rehired a deputy fired by McDonnell for allegations of domestic violence against a fellow deputy, a move a Superior Court judge ruled was “unlawful.” He tried to roll back reforms to clamp down on abusive deputies in the county jails. He allowed the East Los Angeles sheriff’s station to plaster on its windows a logo that McDonnell had banned. It featured the name of a John Wayne movie — “Fort Apache,” which happens to be about a lonely military outpost surrounded by hostile Indians.

That was just the first few months of Villanueva’s reign...."


https://www.latimes.com/california/s...rellano-column
A sign that said Fort Apache on a window…… oh no!!the horrors!!
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Old 11-19-2022, 11:11 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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A sign that said Fort Apache on a window…… oh no!!the horrors!!
From the above link: "Villanueva allowed the reintroduction of a logo to the department’s East L.A. station that McDonnell had banned: a boot topped by a sheriff’s helmet and bracketed with the slogans “Fort Apache” and “Low Profile.”

The nickname refers to a John Wayne western about a U.S. cavalry outpost in the middle of Native American lands and dated back to the 1970 Chicano Moratorium — you know, when Chicanos in East L.A. protested against the Vietnam War only to suffer a brutal beatdown at the hands and batons of sheriff’s deputies. That fiasco infamously culminated with a deputy firing a tear gas projectile into a bar that struck a journalist in the head, killing him instantly."
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Old 11-19-2022, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Ca expat loving Idaho
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I’ll never understand the people of LA
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Old 11-19-2022, 06:26 PM
 
Location: New York City
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I’ll never understand the people of LA
From what I understand all the mansions in the hills now have private security on duty 24/7 around the start of the access roads and regular patrol. Homeless aren't allowed anywhere up there let alone allowed to set up tents on the hillside
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Old 11-19-2022, 09:44 PM
 
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From what I understand all the mansions in the hills now have private security on duty 24/7 around the start of the access roads and regular patrol. Homeless aren't allowed anywhere up there let alone allowed to set up tents on the hillside
It’s almost like they’re in Fort Apache
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Old 12-02-2022, 08:04 AM
 
Location: So Ca
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"The retired Long Beach police chief easily beat incumbent Sheriff Alex Villanueva in this year’s general election by 61% to 39%. Luna’s reward: a scandal-plagued department.

He inherits multiple lawsuits alleging horrific conditions in a jail system still under a federal consent decree. A former sheriff, Lee Baca, completed a stint in federal prison this year for corruption charges. An uproar over deputy gangs has sparked nationwide attention. And he succeeds Villanueva, who won in 2018 promising to bring a progressive approach to the largest sheriff’s department in the country but instead ushered in a reign of favoritism, paranoia, vendettas and political punishment straight out of “Game of Thrones.”

So howzabout that toast, Sheriff Luna?"


https://www.latimes.com/california/s...st-los-angeles
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