Where would you move skid row? (Los Angeles, Long Beach: crimes, house, median income)

[LittleDolphin]

Maybe this social issue isn't a partisan one? Maybe it should/could be solved by the brightest minds in all parties and persuasions??

Imagine that! All of us working together to aid our fellow humans...

[considerforamoment]

Alcatrez or the desert.

[James Austen]

Originally Posted by LS Jaun

Ancient history. There have been 3 Democrat Presidents and and 18+ years since then for Democrars to provide for the sick and homeless...."Nothing"

I think I remember some housing projects that Democrats came up with called Cabrini Greens and Robert Taylor Homes amongst thousands of others. Dems should seek this solution again since it worked so well before

President don't solve homeless issues. It's down to the individual States and local governments.

My solution would be to build camps in the desert because anywhere you try to accommodate homeless in large numbers in urban areas it only causes an uproar amongst the locals and that is understandable. The camps would be supplied with all that's needed to function as a normal living community and with medical facilities. Those hooked on drugs and alcohol would undergo compulsory treatment to kick the habit. Would also reopen the State institutions to house the mentally ill.

Those who are young enough to work and have successfully gone through the drug and alcohol rehab programs would be recycled back into the workforce and helped to find accommodation and jobs, Those who are beyond help would remain in the camps and at least have a place to sleep, food and care provided.

Finally I would increase State taxes by 3 percent to cover the cost of the program and ignore the inevitable screams of protest from the good citizens.

Of course this would never happen. It sounds too much like Fascism and lets not forget that we do live in a democracy

[JohnG72]

Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA

Can someone explain this desire to punish people for having no place to live?

You assume the issue is no place to live without contemplating all the reasons that might be, from personal level to macro level. That is the problem(IE no place to live isn’t the issue…even in 2008-2012 when skid row had more beds than homeless willing to accept them, there were still a couple thousand people on skid row.

I’ll give you a start…what would you personally do if you knew you couldn’t pay rent and would be evicted. Think about the entire range of reasons what various other individuals in the same situation might do.

[NORTY FLATZ]

"Skid Row" venue?

Keeping them in Los Angeles County...how about Acton? There's not much out there, except people that don't want to be

"found." Tents and drop them off out there.

Too bad Gilligan's Island was a hair brained idea from Sherwood Schwartz.....that could have been perfect.

[ciceropolo]

Well, being someone who is into "solutions" if they truly are looking for a free residence and need a home I am all for *drum roll* cue up the Rosemary Cloony hit... with some new lyrics....

"I wanna put you on a slow boat to China, for you to find a new home" or simply put them into all the celebrities and politicians who have second homes... look up addresses ship them there let them be squatters for those who support the bad policies.


I'm envisioning a marketing plan showing the images of those ghost cities built with uninhibited apartment block towers in China during their massive building spree. Give them passage to the Chinese port cities with brochures showing the beautiful new residences. 65 million empty units! Border patrol should "redirect" them to ship passage to China! Problem solved



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt-Pa5s5zZI

[Two Sticks]

Bel Air.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by LittleDolphin

Maybe this social issue isn't a partisan one? Maybe it should/could be solved by the brightest minds in all parties and persuasions??

Imagine that! All of us working together to aid our fellow humans...

Exactly. You'd hardly know it from reading some of the posts on this thread.

[James Austen]

Originally Posted by LittleDolphin

Maybe in some cases it was "progressive liberals" who closed state mental facilities.

But in California, when we lived there in the 80s, it was Gov. Reagan who closed the state and community mental health facilties and turned the people out on the streets to cope as best they could.

https://obrag.org/2023/04/how-reagan...ssness-crisis/

The effect was sudden and dramatic. Suddenly the streets were filled with people with limited capability to cope.

I don't think Gov. Reagan was considered a progressive liberal...

Not Regan. Deukmejian was Governor at that time but being a Republican I doubt he could get much through the Democrat controlled Assembly. I remember well that the reason given for releasing the inmates was that they posed no threat to society and keeping them in an institution was unconstitutional.

That sounds very much far left Democrat school of thought.

Better a shopping cart containing all personal possessions and a shelter under a freeway overpass than a bed and care in an institution. It's FREEDOM what matters eh?

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by James Austen

Not Regan. Deukmejian was Governor at that time

Deukmejian was governor of California from 1983 to 1991. Little Dolphin is correct about what Reagan did later as President; however, as governor, Reagan oversaw the closure of state mental health hospitals starting in 1967. The promise was that smaller, community-based facilities would be built, but this did not happen.