08-15-2017, 09:52 PM
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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I was out on my 3rd floor lanai gathering my board shorts and rash guard for a swim in the ocean about 3:30pm today. I glanced down and noticed several turtles and a few fish in the water. Another movement caught my eye and I realized I was looking at a BIG shark (6-8 ft. long). It was between the inner and outer reef where I usually hang out. The water was crystal clear and I could see it perfectly! It was headed towards 4 women playing in the shallow water. I yelled SHARK!
and pointed. They heard me and headed to shore. Meanwhile the shark circled the woman furthest from shore (about 30 feet out).
Fortunately there was no "shark encounter" (for you JJ
).
The shark cruised back by my condo towards another group of people. Again, I yelled "SHARK" and pointed. They ignored me, so I ran downstairs and out to the beach and yelled it again. A guy snorkeling responded with something I couldn't hear, then grinning at me, went back to snorkeling. A woman in the water said that I "probably saw a turtle and thought is was a shark". (Several Darwin Award Candidates!
)
(That was one big-a$$ turtle with a dorsal fin and several other fins that moved at lightning speed!
)
After watching for another 15 min., I spotted it one more time out by the outer reef.
Then I went to swim in my POOL! Chances are they are around me on a regular basis, but after 3 years in Maui, it was the first one I've ever seen (aside from a baby that circled me 2 years ago).
Not sure what kind it was. Not a Great White, (which I saw off Cape Town a few years ago). Probably a Tiger or Reef shark, but I'm just guessing.
This kinda freaked me out so I thought I'd share it.
08-16-2017, 12:18 AM
Location: not sure, but there's a hell of a lot of water around here!
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08-16-2017, 02:03 AM
Location: Moku Nui, Hawaii
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6 - 8 feet isn't actually that big of a shark, as far as sharks go. But it could still bite if it wanted to. What kind of shark was it? Did you notice any colored tips on it's fins?
08-16-2017, 09:15 PM
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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Aloha JJ,
Do you think it's likely that this was the shark I saw? I could see it really clearly but I didn't notice a tracking device on it's dorsal fin. It stayed just deep enough that it's dorsal fin never broke the surface. The water is only about 3-4 feet deep where it was. I didn't think to look for black fin tips and if it had them, they didn't stand out. It may have also been longer than 8 feet but I didn't want to accidentally exaggerate it's size. I'm 6 ft. and it was definitely longer than I am tall.
As it moved towards the women in the water, it was like watching a train wreck in slow motion.
I'm so glad there wasn't an "encounter". I went in the pool again today, thinking I will give it time to move on.
Perhaps it was leading the way for the Hokule'a Canoe which will spend this weekend in Honolua Bay?
08-16-2017, 09:26 PM
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Many years ago a dive master and I found a white tipped shark about 4 to 5 feet long obviously sleeping under a ledge off of Cancun Mexico. Party of 8 divers. He and I thought it small enough that it would not bother anyone and decided to roust it. Bad idea. Got under the ledge and gentle poked it awake. Then all hell breaks loose. You do not want to be under a ledge with a freshly awakened shark even if it is not a big dude. I ended up bouncing off the ceiling and put two good inch gouges into my tank. Had a couple of black and blues that lasted a couple of weeks. He roared away giving the group a treat. The divemaster and I looked at each other vowing to have our heads examined.
08-16-2017, 11:29 PM
Location: not sure, but there's a hell of a lot of water around here!
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Aloha JJ,
If it still had a dorsal transmitter on it, maybe, but good old 133369, shark afraid of the deep end, stopped transmitting a while back. Next time, run down there, with an aku head in hand, grab the shark by the tail, and roll it over... Simple.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP6WhNFVRbo
I've been knocked off my surfski by dolphins, rubbed up against be a humpback calf, had a needlefish actually poke a hole in my surfski, and get stuck there, (LG at Kama'ole One helped my yank the thing out, needlenose pliers on a needlefish seemed appropriate), have seen sharks maybe twice, once for certain. Thing is, used to be that seeing sea turtles out there was a rare occurrence, back in the early 80's. Now it's when I DON'T see them on the surface that I pay closer attention to what's going on around me.
Regardless, you're more likely to die out there due to a heart attack than by being encountered by a shark. Of course, if the heart attack was induced by seeing #133369, it's a different matter.
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08-17-2017, 08:47 PM
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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I got brave and went back in the ocean today. Two days in the pool was all it took for me to overcome my fear of the shark. After all, it didn't bite anyone when I saw it, and there were lots of other potential victims all around me today. I just kinda wish I hadn't seen it. Until then I played in the ocean daily without a thought about sharks. This was a wakeup call I guess!
08-17-2017, 09:47 PM
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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I got brave and went back in the ocean today. Two days in the pool was all it took for me to overcome my fear of the shark. After all, it didn't bite anyone when I saw it, and there were lots of other potential victims all around me today. I just kinda wish I hadn't seen it. Until then I played in the ocean daily without a thought about sharks. This was a wakeup call I guess!
I learned to scuba dive on Maui. Late in the program we were drilling off the cliff in front of the Sheraton.
The dive master had collected the masks from all the divers but me...about 8 or 10. And they were all following along without masks. I was his strongest student so I was the tail gunner, with mask, to assure that all followed the dive master.
We approached the cliff when suddenly a million fish - All about as foot long with bright blue eyes filled the scene. A solid wall of these fish against the cliff.
Why? Herding them in was a tuna...a big tuna. Certainly more than 8 feet...maybe 10 or 12. Clearly a tuna. Staring with big eyes at these black things in its lunch. Mad scramble to get masks back on. Tuna watches not pleased. Fish do the school thing...instant right than left. We are about 8 or 10 feet from the Tuna.
After a minute or two the Tuna leaves..The school then leaves in a huge wave. And it all looks normal.
Neat place the ocean.
08-18-2017, 12:47 AM
Location: Lahaina, Hi.
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I learned to scuba dive on Maui. Late in the program we were drilling off the cliff in front of the Sheraton.
That would be the place called Black Rock. I go there about once a week to swim. Hard to beat!
08-18-2017, 04:39 AM
Location: not sure, but there's a hell of a lot of water around here!
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That would be the place called Black Rock. I go there about once a week to swim. Hard to beat!
Another snorkeling death just past there yesterday... Wonder if all these snorkeling fatalities are somehow related to weak cardiovascular systems, tied to lack of experience, if any experience whatsoever in the ocean, and carbon dioxide poisoning due to shallow breathing, hence breathing the same air again and again, diminishing its oxygen content.
https://thedivelab.wordpress.com/2013/10/08/snorkeling/
Regardless, be careful out there. I paddled by a guy who was snorkeling off Kama'ole 2 years ago, paddled down to Wailea, coming back, same guy was in about the same place. No longer moving at all, but, without someone out there with you, who would know? Needless to say, he was dead.
Aloha, okolemaluna, and don't snorkel alone, ESPECIALLY if you have cardio issues.
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People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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