Navy hospital corspman? (officer, veterans, soldier, overseas)
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... I guess all of those submariners I associated with at the TTF Bangor,...
At Subase Bangor, how many times have you seen an aircraft carrier tied up to the Delta pier? I am guessing never, because it is a Submarine Base.
Bangor has many different names, the name you selected, TTF, is Trident Training Facility, which refers to the part of the Subase where the school is located. As separate from SWFPAC [Strategic Weapons Facility Pacific], or the Delta pier.
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... Sub Base Point Loma and NWS Charleston were in violation of your code of conduct.
Whenever I surfaced at Subase Point Loma the pier had one surface ship tied up, it was an aux ship dedicated exclusively to the repair of submarines.
Surface ships would pass right on by because that is the entrance into their surface base.
How far is it between the 32nd street pier and Point Loma?
I was on a boat homeported at Charleston SC for a short time, but I have never been to the Naval Weapons Station so I am not familiar with the piers there, or for that matter what vessels tie up there.
I have been to Kingsbay Subase, and to Groton Subase. I spent a lot of time at Holyloch Site One, it was a true rarity to see a surface target vessel Holyloch. As I recall surface target vessels visiting Holyloch were primarily British or else Dutch.
At Subase Bangor, how many times have you seen an aircraft carrier tied up to the Delta pier? I am guessing never, because it is a Submarine Base.
Bangor has many different names, the name you selected, TTF, is Trident Training Facility, which refers to the part of the Subase where the school is located. As separate from SWFPAC [Strategic Weapons Facility Pacific], or the Delta pier.
Whenever I surfaced at Subase Point Loma the pier had one surface ship tied up, it was an aux ship dedicated exclusively to the repair of submarines.
Surface ships would pass right on by because that is the entrance into their surface base.
How far is it between the 32nd street pier and Point Loma?
I was on a boat homeported at Charleston SC for a short time, but I have never been to the Naval Weapons Station so I am not familiar with the piers there, or for that matter what vessels tie up there.
I have been to Kingsbay Subase, and to Groton Subase. I spent a lot of time at Holyloch Site One, it was a true rarity to see a surface target vessel Holyloch. As I recall surface target vessels visiting Holyloch were primarily British or else Dutch.
I can counter that with saying there were several occasions a frigate I was a crewman on tied up along side a sub tender in La Maddalena, Sardinia just a stone's throw from a few fast attack submarines. It's no big deal. I was giving you a hard time. Ultimately,we're all Sailors.
I can counter that with saying there were several occasions a frigate I was a crewman on tied up along side a sub tender in La Maddalena, Sardinia just a stone's throw from a few fast attack submarines. It's no big deal. I was giving you a hard time. Ultimately,we're all Sailors.
I did shore duty once doing Law Enforcement in Naples Italy. When carrier groups came into port for liberty, one of my duties was to meet each ship to give the wardroom a port briefing [since I was familiar with the good/bad quarters of the city]. I knew that carrier groups could not go out to sea without a submarine escort so I asked, and each time I was told the sub escort could not come into the same port with the carrier group, they had to go somewhere else for their liberty.
When working as Navy Police people assumed that I was wearing ESWS [surface ship qualifications] but when they got close to me, you could see in their eyes when they realized I was not wearing ESWS but instead I wore Dolphins.
We were wearing woodland BDU camo everything gets embroidered onto the uniform so with some medals you have to get real close to distinguish what it is. Like trying to tell the difference between a CDR and a LCDR is nearly impossible when they are both embroidered with the same color thread.
The problem with passing on anecdotal information or information from Wikipedia is that it's often not accurate or current. Thousands of Navy Corpsman work outside of a brick and mortar medical facilities while assigned to the Fleet Marine Force, Navy warships, Navy aviation squadrons, Search and Rescue units, SeaBee Battalions, Navy diving units, EOD units and SEAL Teams. During my career I trained Hospital Corpsman to become nationally registered EMT's and registered as EMT's in the State of California at two different commands. Our Corpsmen worked on ambulance crews, Search and Rescue (SAR) crews and in the emergency room. The opportunities for Navy Corpsman to become EMT's or to attend one of the dozens of HM "C" Schools exist if they choose to take advantage of them.
Your point is taken, and I did not word my case adequately. My point is that most ships have medical officers, most aviation squadrons have medical officers, and seebee battalions have medical officers so, aside from corpsmen embedded in field units, they operate under more direct medical supervision than the typical civilian EMT in the field because their directing physician is generally more close at hand. A ship with a medical officer and a sick bay is a medical facility, so the term means much more than a brick and mortar building. I also said that a corpsman could take the NREMT. I don't want to split hairs, but I do want to explain my thought process. Thank you for your clarification.
Your point is taken, and I did not word my case adequately. My point is that most ships have medical officers, most aviation squadrons have medical officers, and seebee battalions have medical officers so, aside from corpsmen embedded in field units, they operate under more direct medical supervision than the typical civilian EMT in the field because their directing physician is generally more close at hand. A ship with a medical officer and a sick bay is a medical facility, so the term means much more than a brick and mortar building. I also said that a corpsman could take the NREMT. I don't want to split hairs, but I do want to explain my thought process. Thank you for your clarification.
Once again you're making false assumptions. The only Navy warships that have a physician on board are Aircraft carriers and other large amphibious ships and helicopter carriers (e.g. LPD, LSD, LDS and LHA). Sub tenders (AS) and hospital ships (T-AH) also have physicians on board. The vast majority of the Navy warships have an Independent Duty Corpsman to tend to the crew's medical needs. That includes destroyers (DDG), cruisers (CG), patrol craft (PC), littoral combat ships (LCS), mine counter measures ships (MCM) as well as fast attack submarines (SSN) and ballistic missile submarines (SSBN). There are 36 Navy ships that have a a physician on board. The other 450 or so Navy ships in the fleet have an Independent Duty Corpsman that provides to the crew's medical needs. He or she also oversees and mentors the Corpsman in their medical department.
Regarding Corpsman with SeaBee battalions and aviation squadrons, physicians are usually "in the rear with the gear" which leaves the young Navy Corpsman with a lot of responsibility for taking care the personnel in his/her unit. Corpsman also perform a lot of medical tasks like suturing, basic laboratory studies, minor surgery, assessing and diagnosing medical conditions/ injuries and prescribing medications that EMT's are not legally authorized to perform. At sea and in the field they also perform food service sanitation, preventive medicine duties, fumigation for insects and rodents and potable drinking water testing. Considering I spent 22 years in the fleet as a Navy Corpsman I'm pretty familiar with their training, expertise and responsibilities in the field, afloat and ashore. I'd match the profession skills of any Navy Corpsman that I helped train and mentor as an EMT against any civilian trained EMT in the nation.
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Once again you're making false assumptions. The only Navy warships that have a physician on board are Aircraft carriers and other large amphibious ships and helicopter carriers (e.g. LPD, LSD, LDS and LHA). Sub tenders (AS) and hospital ships (T-AH) also have physicians on board. The vast majority of the Navy warships have an Independent Duty Corpsman to tend to the crew's medical needs. That includes destroyers (DDG), cruisers (CG), patrol craft (PC), littoral combat ships (LCS), mine counter measures ships (MCM) as well as fast attack submarines (SSN) and ballistic missile submarines (SSBN). There are 36 Navy ships that have a a physician on board. The other 450 or so Navy ships in the fleet have an Independent Duty Corpsman that provides to the crew's medical needs. He or she also oversees and mentors the Corpsman in their medical department.
Regarding Corpsman with SeaBee battalions and aviation squadrons, physicians are usually "in the rear with the gear" which leaves the young Navy Corpsman with a lot of responsibility for taking care the personnel in his/her unit. Corpsman also perform a lot of medical tasks like suturing, basic laboratory studies, minor surgery, assessing and diagnosing medical conditions/ injuries and prescribing medications that EMT's are not legally authorized to perform. At sea and in the field they also perform food service sanitation, preventive medicine duties, fumigation for insects and rodents and potable drinking water testing. Considering I spent 22 years in the fleet as a Navy Corpsman I'm pretty familiar with their training, expertise and responsibilities in the field, afloat and ashore. I'd match the profession skills of any Navy Corpsman that I helped train and mentor as an EMT against any civilian trained EMT in the nation.
Yep.
The National Capital Consortium document here has a nice rundown, too.
For reference, and something I didn't know until now, the National Capital Consortium is "the sponsoring institution for all military Graduate Medical Education programs in the National Capital Region (Maryland, Northern Virginia and Washington, D.C) and is the largest GME sponsor for the Military Health System, educating physicians, dentists, and other healthcare professionals who care for soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines of all ages, and their families." https://medschool.usuhs.edu/academic...tal-consortium
Ultimately [ or should I say unfortunately] <snicker> yes you and submariner were both called sailors.
I was a brown shoe in Naval Aviation, thank you very much. . No haze gray & underway for me!
We like to hassle each other, all in good fun.
For OP's son, I'd further recommend that after active duty as an HM, apply for a job with the VA as a health tech or nursing assistant, work for a year, and the VA will then pay for most if not all of your nursing degree. Plus, you can add your active duty time to your federal retirement. A fantastic deal all the way around.
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