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Old 07-22-2022, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Levittown
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Here's my problem with the whole thing. You wouldn't have so many crooked cops issuing nonsense citations to generate revenue if you didn't have so many different police departments. Long Island has two police departments: Nassau County and Suffolk County. If you had county police departments and no small municipal police departments there wouldn't be this problem. Why a small town like Helmetta or Spotswood needs a police department is beyond me. They tried to get the county police thing going in Camden County, but none of the municipalities outside the city of Camden wanted to join for some stupid reason.
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Old 07-22-2022, 06:19 PM
 
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Here's my problem with the whole thing. You wouldn't have so many crooked cops issuing nonsense citations to generate revenue if you didn't have so many different police departments. Long Island has two police departments: Nassau County and Suffolk County. If you had county police departments and no small municipal police departments there wouldn't be this problem. Why a small town like Helmetta or Spotswood needs a police department is beyond me. They tried to get the county police thing going in Camden County, but none of the municipalities outside the city of Camden wanted to join for some stupid reason.
Some villages and cities on LI have their own police departments
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Old 07-23-2022, 06:03 AM
 
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They tried to get the county police thing going in Camden County, but none of the municipalities outside the city of Camden wanted to join for some stupid reason.
About 7 or 8 years ago, there was a proposed plan to do the same thing in Somerset County. It went down in flames because of the objections from all of the local Chiefs and Deputy Chiefs who would have effectively been demoted.
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Old 07-23-2022, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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Here's my problem with the whole thing. You wouldn't have so many crooked cops issuing nonsense citations to generate revenue if you didn't have so many different police departments. Long Island has two police departments: Nassau County and Suffolk County. If you had county police departments and no small municipal police departments there wouldn't be this problem. Why a small town like Helmetta or Spotswood needs a police department is beyond me. They tried to get the county police thing going in Camden County, but none of the municipalities outside the city of Camden wanted to join for some stupid reason.

I think the some stupid reason here is maybe because nobody wants to be a cop in Camden. Just a guess though
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Old 07-23-2022, 08:23 AM
 
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I think the some stupid reason here is maybe because nobody wants to be a cop in Camden. Just a guess though
It appears that Camden hasn't had any significant problems with recruiting officers for its County-affiliated police force:

Camden disbanded its city’s police force in 2012, partnering with Camden County for its new police department, now with 400 sworn officers and a support staff of 90 civilians. Officers had to re-apply to the new county agency for jobs and must adhere to stricter professional standards.

... and Camden's newly-constituted police force has shown itself to be very effective over the past decade:

Reforms that Chief Rodriguez and his predecessors – former police chiefs J. Scott Thomson and Joseph Wysocki – helped to implement have cut Camden’s crime rate in half and reduced “excessive force” complaints against cops by 95% since 2014.

Working with the Camden County Prosecutor’s Office, police achieved a 95.7% “solve-rate” for the city’s 23 homicides in 2020. And Camden is no longer on the FBI’s top 10 list of America’s most dangerous cities.



https://www.tapinto.net/towns/camden...r-other-cities


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Old 07-23-2022, 03:48 PM
 
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More woke democrat nonsense, but hey it makes certain people happy.
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Now that NJ has enacted a requirement for LEOs to be licensed, that leaves only California, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island as the states lacking that type of requirement. If you give this about 2 seconds of contemplation, you will realize that ALL of the "red" states have already enacted this type of statute.

So... with the realization that this type of regulation gained traction in "red" states earlier than it did in NJ...
How does this type of legislation amount to "woke democrat nonsense"?



https://whyy.org/articles/new-jersey...btain-license/


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Old 07-23-2022, 04:44 PM
 
Location: NJ
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This is great news.

Woke democrat nonsense ?

How about "what's good for the goose, is good for the gander" ?

I'd go further to say: Require every law enforcement officer, at every level, to carry liability insurance.

All settlements for malfeasance and brutality will be paid by the insurance companies, NOT by the taxpayers.

Which would put an end to police departments "investigating" themselves with absolutely no oversight, or accountability.

Once a law enforcement officer becomes uninsurable, their career is over.

This assumes nothing about police officers, except that they are subject to human failings, just like the rest of us.

And that just like anyone in the private sector, they should be held personally responsible for their actions.

If they're not doing anything wrong, they have nothing to worry about.


People sue when they have no case!

Lawyers are happy to pester companies and individuals with law suits they know they can't win just for the eventual settlement. cost of extended trial vs settlement!

So a good cop gets sued, loses his savings and home on attorney's fees and is found innocent. That will work! That will work to break down the safety net cops represent.

Stop the lies and bias and false statistics and reject the terrorist organizations like BLM who have advocated for the death of cops. Add to that the elected legislators who sell the lies about policing. They are practicing the exact same extreme bias they pretend to abhor.

the problem is not the police.
The problem is a state which lacks political diversity and a media which promotes the lies and false accusations of the extreme left of which murphy has demonstrated himself to be.

Murphy is out of his mind. A sanctuary state to attract the terrorists, gangs and drugs to NJ and then cuts holes in our safety net.
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Old 07-23-2022, 05:28 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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People sue when they have no case!
...and then they get counter-sued for filing a frivolous lawsuit

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Lawyers are happy to pester companies and individuals with law suits they know they can't win
I guess you chose to overlook that I said LEO's should carry liability insurance.

Insurance companies are highly skilled at dealing with lawsuits.

But, since you characterize BLM as a terrorist organization, I doubt you'll understand any of this logic.
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Old 07-23-2022, 05:48 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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Well, they are.
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Old 07-23-2022, 07:10 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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When it comes to Black Lives Matter, there’s no credible case for labeling it a terrorist organization.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order...rist-actually/
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