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Old 03-26-2023, 08:56 PM
 
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Something isn't right if NOAA has been issuing "take" aka kill permits to wind companies along the East Coast since 2014.

Why is the media not reporting this? Residents along coast have the right to know.

Here is an exerpt from Wind-Watch.org article.

As of mid-March 2023, NOAA Fisheries has handed out 15 marine mammal Incidental Take Authorizations (ITAs) to offshore wind projects from NC to MA. These will allow companies to “take” 111,817 whales, dolphins and seals. The harassment, injury, and killing of marine mammals are referred to as “takes.”

[url]https://www.wind-watch.org/news/2023/03/23/take-authorizations-prove-noaa-is-lying-about-whale-deaths/[/url]


[url]https://www.wind-watch.org/news/2014/09/09/noaa-issues-take-permit-for-30-mw-wind-energy-project/[/url]


[url]https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/national/marine-mammal-protection/incidental-take-authorizations-other-energy-activities-renewable[/url]

[url]https://www.eastcountymagazine.org/editorial-wind-industry-and-incidental-take-permit[/url]
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Old 03-27-2023, 06:48 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Today - Another dead whale washed up in Cape May County.

https://seaislenews.com/dead-whale-f...ibextid=Zxz2cZ

Plenty of spin in this article. Feds are quick to claim no proof the death was caused by sonar surveys.

There is also NO PROOF that the deaths are NOT related to surveys.

Also no mention of the Incidental Take permits the feds have issued Orsted to harm whales.

This is the 29th dead whale since Dec 2022
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Old 03-27-2023, 07:39 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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The foundations for wind turbines vary depending on water depth. In shallow water, it might be a large concrete gravity base. As water gets deeper, holes are drilled for monopiles, which is a single piling, or tripods and similar structures are used. I haven't found the exact details, but those would probably be holes no more than 300 feet deep. Offshore drilling for oil and gas consists of drilling wells that can be as much as 25,000 feet deep, then either setting a platform on top or using a floating platform, or ship to collect the produced gases and fluids. The tallest fixed platform In know of in the Gulf of Mexico is over 1500 feet tall, with about 1300 feet of that below the waterline. That platform is held in place with pilings driven several hundred feet into the seabed. The platform had slots to drill 60 wells.

I was on a platform offshore of West Africa once, when it started swaying more than usual and felt like it was being bumped. One fo the workers told me to come out and look, as a whale was rubbing against the platform, presumably to scratch an itch on the barnacles and other growth underwater. We say about 20 whales that day as they were migrating.
Thank you for sharing that information. Your first hand account is very interesting and it adds a lot to our conversation.

In comparison to the oil rigs, the gigantic turbines in New Jersey will be 1047 feet tall.

900 Feet of it will be visible above the ocean waterline.

Blades will stretch 906 Feet across in diameter.

Imagine at giant turbine 1047 feet tall, stretching 906 feet across. 400 of them.

That's just one project planned for New Jersey.

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Old 03-27-2023, 09:47 AM
 
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Thank you for sharing that information. Your first hand account is very interesting and it adds a lot to our conversation.

In comparison to the oil rigs, the gigantic turbines in New Jersey will be 1047 feet tall.

900 Feet of it will be visible above the ocean waterline.

Blades will stretch 906 Feet across in diameter.

Imagine at giant turbine 1047 feet tall, stretching 906 feet across. 400 of them.

That's just one project planned for New Jersey.
Also, they never announced how many will be put into the ground. However, its anywhere from 1,000 - 4,000 will be installed.
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Old 03-27-2023, 10:30 AM
 
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Also, they never announced how many will be put into the ground. However, its anywhere from 1,000 - 4,000 will be installed.
The current project is for 98 wind turbines. Where do you get the 1,000 or higher number?
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Old 03-27-2023, 10:36 AM
 
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The current project is for 98 wind turbines. Where do you get the 1,000 or higher number?
The project is going to be done in many phases, and a lot of it based on the total funding. They want 11,000 megawatts in total by 2040. Each windmill can produce a maximum of 3.6MW so that's 3,066 windmills. Obviously windmills cannot continuously make 3.6 MW so I read somewhere that the number 2.5 MW is going to be used as the standard so the number is likely closer to be 4,400 windmills in NJ by 2040.

I believe they are issuing number counts in phases.

98 windmills would hardly even cover the electric needed for a single town itself. They want enough windmills for the electric of the entire state.

Now keep in mind each windmill is slightly smaller than the empire state building.

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Old 03-27-2023, 10:41 AM
 
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The current project is for 98 wind turbines. Where do you get the 1,000 or higher number?
Right off of BOEM's website.
Total Turbine Count - 5,549 (east coast - MA to DE)

Just In NJ
Hudson North - 697 Turbines
Hudson South - 989 Turbines
Atlantic Shores - 227 Turbines
Ocean Wind - 192 Turbines
Garden State - 89 Turbines

Not sure where you're getting 98 from.
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Old 03-27-2023, 02:43 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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What will be the cumulative long term impact of the development of thousands of turbines on the Atlantic Coast?

How will ongoing construction for many years impact migrating whales, fish, sea turtles, seals, dolphins, and porpoise?

No one knows. There is no research.

The BOEM says their findings are "Uncertain due to lack of data".

Here is a study detailing the rarely discussed downsides of wind development.

Out to Sea, The Dismal Economics Of Offshore Wind

The benefits of wind are overstated and don't outweigh the harm.
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Old 03-27-2023, 03:17 PM
 
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What will be the cumulative long term impact of the development of thousands of turbines on the Atlantic Coast?

How will ongoing construction for many years impact migrating whales, fish, sea turtles, seals, dolphins, and porpoise?

No one knows. There is no research.

The BOEM says their findings are "Uncertain due to lack of data".

Here is a study detailing the rarely discussed downsides of wind development.

Out to Sea, The Dismal Economics Of Offshore Wind

The benefits of wind are overstated and don't outweigh the harm.
There's a lot of information that's unknown. Apparently there are 361 types of birds that migrate through the coast and will in the way of thousands of windmills. What do millions of dead birds cause? Feed frenzy of sharks, but that's just speculation.

I'm also not a clammer, but apparently NJ has a large protected clamming industry. They are already admitting it to be 100% destroyed by the windmills, in their proposal.

Something like this has never been experimented on before, but why experiment on our beaches?

I live 26 miles from the Empire State Building, and most days and nights I can see clear as day the building. They want to put 3-5k these windmills that are each slightly smaller than the empire state building, as close as 9 miles from the beach. The views on the shoreline are going to be destroyed, let alone the questionable health effects of the low frequencies that these put off. Apparently it causes damages to elderly people.
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Old 03-27-2023, 03:25 PM
 
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The project is going to be done in many phases, and a lot of it based on the total funding. They want 11,000 megawatts in total by 2040. Each windmill can produce a maximum of 3.6MW so that's 3,066 windmills. Obviously windmills cannot continuously make 3.6 MW so I read somewhere that the number 2.5 MW is going to be used as the standard so the number is likely closer to be 4,400 windmills in NJ by 2040.

I believe they are issuing number counts in phases.

98 windmills would hardly even cover the electric needed for a single town itself. They want enough windmills for the electric of the entire state.

Now keep in mind each windmill is slightly smaller than the empire state building.
The turbines used are 12MW turbines. The first phase is 1,100MW from 98 turbines. That's enough power for 500,000 homes. Details from the project site https://oceanwindone.com/about-the-project
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