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Old 09-22-2023, 01:39 PM
 
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I am not a great fan of US News college ranking, but still this should be good news! I saw a headline about changes US News made this year to the methodology (?), may be that played a role?

https://www.rutgers.edu/news/rutgers...-news-rankings

Rutgers University advanced significantly in the U.S. News & World Report college rankings, with Rutgers-New Brunswick ranked as the #15 top public university in the nation this year and all three of the university’s locations in Newark, Camden and New Brunswick among the top 100 national universities for the first time in the ranking’s 40-year history.
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Old 09-22-2023, 08:17 PM
 
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I am not a great fan of US News college ranking, but still this should be good news! I saw a headline about changes US News made this year to the methodology (?), may be that played a role?

https://www.rutgers.edu/news/rutgers...-news-rankings

Rutgers University advanced significantly in the U.S. News & World Report college rankings, with Rutgers-New Brunswick ranked as the #15 top public university in the nation this year and all three of the university’s locations in Newark, Camden and New Brunswick among the top 100 national universities for the first time in the ranking’s 40-year history.
Eh, looks lime half the factors are based on diversity, not academics. Not hard to do in a diverse state like NJ. Seems like it’s more an indicator high indoctrination than anything else.
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Old 09-22-2023, 10:22 PM
 
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Eh, looks lime half the factors are based on diversity, not academics. Not hard to do in a diverse state like NJ. Seems like it’s more an indicator high indoctrination than anything else.
If the rating metric includes diversity the acknowledgment is meaningless.
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Old 09-23-2023, 06:36 AM
 
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If the rating metric includes diversity the acknowledgment is meaningless.
Agreed.
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Old 09-23-2023, 07:27 AM
 
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Eh, looks lime half the factors are based on diversity, not academics. Not hard to do in a diverse state like NJ. Seems like it’s more an indicator high indoctrination than anything else.

Where are you seeing half the factors based on diversity?
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Old 09-23-2023, 07:35 AM
 
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Old 09-23-2023, 07:41 AM
 
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Where are you seeing half the factors based on diversity?
This is what I was referring to (different backgrounds aka diversity):

“ The 2024 U.S. News & World Report Best Colleges rankings were calculated using 19 key measures of academic quality for national universities. More than half of a school's rank is now comprised of varying outcome measures related to schools' success at enrolling, retaining and graduating students from different backgrounds with manageable debt and post-graduate success.”
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Old 09-23-2023, 08:42 AM
 
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This is what I was referring to (different backgrounds aka diversity):

“ The 2024 U.S. News & World Report Best Colleges rankings were calculated using 19 key measures of academic quality for national universities. More than half of a school's rank is now comprised of varying outcome measures related to schools' success at enrolling, retaining and graduating students from different backgrounds with manageable debt and post-graduate success.”

Ok, well, here’s the actual criteria (beginning on page 22):


https://www.usnews.com/media/ai/educ...BC-methodology

Below are the criteria that can be attributed to diversity and their corresponding weight % to the rankings. For those that don’t know, Pell grants are grants given to students from low income households


Pell graduation rates 3%
Pell graduation performance 3%
First generation graduation rates 2.5%
First generation graduation rate performance 2.5%


So diversity accounts for 11% of the overall weight. Last year it was just 5%, so I would have to guess it was other factors that made Rutgers rank high.
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Old 09-23-2023, 09:22 AM
 
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Ok, well, here’s the actual criteria (beginning on page 22):


https://www.usnews.com/media/ai/educ...BC-methodology

Below are the criteria that can be attributed to diversity and their corresponding weight % to the rankings. For those that don’t know, Pell grants are grants given to students from low income households


Pell graduation rates 3%
Pell graduation performance 3%
First generation graduation rates 2.5%
First generation graduation rate performance 2.5%


So diversity accounts for 11% of the overall weight. Last year it was just 5%, so I would have to guess it was other factors that made Rutgers rank high.
I don’t think that’s entirely accurate. Reading the methodology article linked inside the file you linked to (page 41 of the PDF, question 4), the methodology article reads “More than half of a school's rank is now comprised of varying outcome measures related to schools' success at enrolling, retaining and graduating students from different backgrounds with manageable debt and post-graduate success.”

Link to methodology article: https://www.usnews.com/education/bes...d-the-rankings

So, I think diversity is still one of the most important factors in the rank.
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Old 09-23-2023, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Bergen County, NJ
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I don’t think that’s entirely accurate. Reading the methodology article linked inside the file you linked to (page 41 of the PDF, question 4), the methodology article reads “More than half of a school's rank is now comprised of varying outcome measures related to schools' success at enrolling, retaining and graduating students from different backgrounds with manageable debt and post-graduate success.”

Link to methodology article: https://www.usnews.com/education/bes...d-the-rankings

So, I think diversity is still one of the most important factors in the rank.

If 11% is most now, sure.
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