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Mistake #1, never trust the media. You know how many people have e-bikes in the city. The whole city would have burned down if it was the #1 cause.
The media has no reason to lie about how fires started and neither does the NYC Fire Commissioner who clearly stated that E-bike charging fires are the the number one cause of death from fires. Why? Because they spread a whole lot faster and much harder to control than an ordinary fire. This is a fact. If you pay attention, MOST fires in NYC are being caused by charging Ebikes and Escooters! I never said MOST Ebikes are catching on fire, I said most fires are currently caused by them, therefore I'd feel safer if they weren't allowed in my building or for their batteries (which many come from China) couldn't be charged. If you don't like it, take a bus or train instead. You are still "going green" by taking mass transit.
You're right, I hadn't taken note of that. Must be exceptionally bad area, because I can't remember the last time I saw a car on fire let alone see one at least once per week.
True - but again gas car fires are many times more likely so ban them under the same rational.
That's not rational. A gas car isn't going to catch fire just sitting somewhere turned off. And in an apartment complex, you wouldn't have EVs inside a structure where it could set the building on fire.
ALL of these fire-issues were related to gasoline-powered cars, and the defects frequently led to fires while the engines were shut off.
Regarding your modern era example (only one that is relevant), their fires were caused by ELECTRICAL CIRCUIT BATTERY issues, ZERO to do with them being "gas cars"
Regarding your modern era example (only one that is relevant), their fires were caused by ELECTRICAL CIRCUIT BATTERY issues, ZERO to do with them being "gas cars"
I was responding to another forum member who believes that "gas cars" are not prone to fires while they are shut-off and parked. Any electrical device--whether it is located in a building, or an EV, or a gasoline-powered car--can spark a fire under certain circumstances.
And, lest anyone perceive that I'm picking on Ford, Hyundai/Kia had to recall millions of gasoline-powered cars due to the potential for them to catch fire--while parked and turned-off.
ALL of these fire-issues were related to gasoline-powered cars, and the defects frequently led to fires while the engines were shut off.
But that was a defect, that they recalled the cars for. The lithium ion batteries are fire hazards regardless. That's what they say led to the Ventura dive boat fire that killed all those people. So now you have a battery 20 times the size, parked in your garage.
"Four more lawsuits were announced Monday in the deadly Conception dive boat fire off the Ventura County coast, alleging that ion lithium battery charging stations were to blame."
I was responding to another forum member who believes that "gas cars" are not prone to fires while they are shut-off and parked. Any electrical device--whether it is located in a building, or an EV, or a gasoline-powered car--can spark a fire under certain circumstances.
And, lest anyone perceive that I'm picking on Ford, Hyundai/Kia had to recall millions of gasoline-powered cars due to the potential for them to catch fire--while parked and turned-off.
Does a manufacturing defect--of millions of vehicles--equate to "not inherently prone" to a fire risk?
YES. Inherently prone means if they are built the way they are supposed to be, they are not prone to catching on fire. These cars had a wiring problem that was caused by human error or faulty parts.
Even when they do catch fire, it is far easier to put out a gas-car fire than an EV fire. You could probably do it yourself with a fire extinguisher if you caught it early. The EV fires are very difficult to put out. In the link I posted yesterday, firefighters had to call Tesla to see if they had any suggestions after trying for a long time to put out the fire to no avail.
But the chances of a gas-powered car spontaneously catching fire just sitting still with the engine turned off, is extraordinarily low.
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