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The prediction is total clickbait. I just repeated it to see what people thought of Scotty's prediction that switching the engines is going to increase maintenance problems and undermine sales of the Rogue.
The thing about a new less reliable engine is that problems are more apt to show up after the warranty expires. So it takes quite a few years before issues are known.
For instance look at the Subaru Powertrain Limited Warranty: POWERTRAIN COVERAGE for all models is 5 years or 60,000 miles, whichever comes first. Subject to the exclusions listed in this warranty, it covers the major powertrain components listed below.
Powertrain Coverage Components:
Engine
Engine block and all internal parts
Cylinder heads and valve trains
Oil pump, oil pan
Timing belts or gears and cover
Water pump
Flywheel
Intake and exhaust manifolds
Oil seals and gaskets
For nearly a decade the head gaskets on many Subaru's were failing, but nearly all of them failed after 60,000 miles
Specifically on the non-turbo models. The turbo ones used better headgaskets that didn't delaminate and fall apart around 60 to 100k. I mean, headgaskets always do fail occasionally, just not at the rate of Subaru ones. A lot of the turbo engines got the old boost controller treatment with the boost dialed up, poor generic "chips" rather than proper tunes, so those engines had a tendency to not last so long for other reasons. Later EJ motors used revised cooling systems. They didn't fix the headgaskets but at least they were much less likely to take the engines out with them when they failed.
Subaru was funny though. They extended the warranty on their faulty headgaskets to 8/100,000 but only for external leaks. You quite literally had a scenario where a part failed in one way and they covered it because the repair wasn't too expensive, $1,200 or so back then at a $tealer to do a headgasket. However, if the same part failure went the other way and cascaded and required a $6,000 engine rebuilt they weren't owning up to that one. External leak, 8/100k. Internal leak where we might have to rebuild an engine oh, hell no. We aren't extanding that one out. 62 months and 61,000 miles you're out of luck buddy. Your headgasked leaked internally. My interest in Subarus diminished quite a lot when I learned that. They're not the only company that doesn't stand behind their defective products, most of them try and weasel out of it.
Also the importance of popping the hood for a quick visual inspection of your oil/coolant. The old forthy milkshake of oil readily mixxing with coolant is pretty hard to miss if you actually look.
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I have a 2009 Cube and got it at 25k and still have it, its at 97k. All this time only one thing went bad. One motor mount. My exp has been good.
So last week I wanted a 2nd car and got a 2016 Altima SR 2.5 with 47k on it. Its the one with the sport suspension.
I got it for 16,450 before tax and fees. When I compared the Altima SR to other Japanese sporty mid size sedans like the Accord Sport and Camry SE I had to pay at least 20k to 22k for the same year and miles.
I like my used Altima a lot but I wished I had not overlooked the Chevy Malibu at time of purchase and gave it a look. Reviews says its got a great balance of quiet and a composed ride with decent handling. Used prices are good fo the Malibu with really solid reliability.
So last week I wanted a 2nd car and got a 2016 Altima SR 2.5 with 47k on it. Its the one with the sport suspension.
You mean this one?
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Originally Posted by Nissan Press Release
Altima model lineup has been expanded for 2016 with a new Altima SR grade featuring 18-inch aluminum-alloy wheels, smoked headlights, paddle shifters, rear spoiler, unique suspension tuning and sport interior accents.
Nissan is still perceived as an automaker that sells cars. While not in the same league as Honda and Toyota they still have the Versa. the Sentra, the Altima and the Maxima along with the specialty cars, the LEAF, 370Z, and GT-R.
Subaru is perceived as an SUV automaker. They still sell the Impreza, the Legacy as well as the sport sedans, the WRX, and the BRZ.
For the first half of 2022 sales; Nissan sales are 38.6% cars while Subaru is down to 13.1% cars.
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Used Subaru are priced so high where I live ( Northwest) that I might as well bit the bullet and get a new car.
My criteria was about 16-17k max under 50k miles. No Camry, Accord, Legacy, Mazda6 were to be had for that price unless the car had a rebuilt or savage title.
Used Subaru are priced so high where I live ( Northwest) that I might as well bit the bullet and get a new car.
My criteria was about 16-17k max under 50k miles. No Camry, Accord, Legacy, Mazda6 were to be had for that price unless the car had a rebuilt or savage title.
Not only Subaru. I went new both for the Mazda3 and Prius for the same reason. Buying a new one was just a better buy than anything within 4-5 years old and <100k miles. On top of that now you have the nutty used market. You'll find lots of examples of used cars costing even more than MSRP on new ones. Given, if you need it today you'll likely pay over MSRP but you can on most cars wait a few months at an MSRP dealer. That might not do you any good if your car got totaled and you need one now. Otherwise I'd much rather just wait 3-6 months than pay a 2-5k markup or buy a 2-year-old car with 30k miles for over MSRP.
Used Subaru are priced so high where I live ( Northwest) that I might as well bit the bullet and get a new car.
When does this end? Subaru executives were predicting an average monthly sales of 60,000 for 2020 before the pandemic hit At the end of July it was predicted that car sales were expected to surge in the second half of 2022. So far the broke 50,000 only one month in 2022.
Average monthly US subaru sales in number of vehicles
2022 44,568
2021 48,651
2020 50,995
2019 58,343
2018 56,678
2017 53,996
2016 51,261
2015 48,556
The best thing Subaru has going for them rights now is the exchange rate of 144.8 Japanese Yen to the USD which was 111.5 a year ago and 105 two years ago. Crosstreks are assembled in Japan, and they are becoming the best selling Subaru model.
Nissans are popular because they have affordable cars with premium looking interiors.
Many average consumers care more about the UI/user experience than the engine.
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