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This title of Scotty Kilmer's video is obviously chosen as an attention grabbing device.
But he highlights the fact that the 2021 Rogue's 2.5-liter four-cylinder that makes 182 hp has been replaced for 2022 with a turbocharged 1.5-liter three-cylinder engine that makes 201 horsepower. The Rogue's CVT transmission has also been revised and is said to aid acceleration and fuel economy.
Scotty says it is a huge mistake and will only increase rating by 1 mpg. He calls it a pointless engineering effort. He compares it with Ford's 1.5 liter engine in the Ford Escape.
Nissan is known for making mistakes where they cost a fortune to fix when they break! - Scotty Kilmer making one of his customary generalizations that he is famous for.
Just doing a fact check from EPA website shows an improvement of 3 mpg for city, and 2 mpg for highway. Which is pretty anemic, but more than the 1 mpg that Scotty cites in the video.
Despite this slight disagreement in facts, I think Scotty has a point. You have a perfectly reliable 2.5 NA 4-cylinder engine, and you are switching to a complicated 1.5 liter turbocharged 3 cylinder engine.
He even mentions "the law of diminishing returns". Interestingly that same phrase was used in Trump's 2018 argument for freezing Obama's tightened CAFE requirements at the 2020 level for another 5 years.
2022 Mitsubishi Outlander (which is just a rebadged Nissan Rogue) retains the old engine
Last edited by PacoMartin; 01-02-2022 at 06:24 PM..
I am not going to watch the video, IMO Scotty is just trying to entertain and gather viewers and is actually doing a good job at that.
As far as Nissan is considered, they are a very large company, Rogue is one of the best selling CUV's. Like most other buyers if such cars, they probably do not know what engine is under the hood. Try and ask people if they have a 4 or 6 cylinder car. Most don't know.
I think Nissan has consultants on their payroll that are smarter than Scotty.
Now, like any big company, they can still go bankrupt, but I don't think it is as simple as that.
Scotty Kilmer is a shouty nothingburger. He clickbaits and is good at making money on YouTube, and that’s about it.
He may have a point, but what’s interesting about little turbo engines is that if you maintain a calm driving style, they’re actually quite efficient, so for those folks this will actually be a boon.
Long-term, of course, we’re taking about costly engine repairs to keep the things on the road. Turbos ain’t cheap, and can have myriad problems. Nissan’s CVTs were almost disastrous early on, so while they have them fixed now, it’s a little cringe to think about them changing up their CVTs for a new drivetrain. The problem is, we’ll just have to wait and see who has to fork over cash if these potential problems start rearing their heads.
I lost all interest at Scotty Kilmer. That idiot doesn’t know his backside from a hole in the ground. It is too bad, at one time Nissan was one of the best of Asian imports at the time. Thinking 80s and 90s. I nearly bought a 1996 Maxima years ago. It was a nice car at the time, which was the early to mid 2000s. Their little pickups were pretty darn decent too. It seemed to fall apart in the 2000s.
Scotty Kilmer is a shouty nothingburger. He clickbaits and is good at making money on YouTube, and that’s about it.
He may have a point, but what’s interesting about little turbo engines is that if you maintain a calm driving style, they’re actually quite efficient, so for those folks this will actually be a boon.
Long-term, of course, we’re taking about costly engine repairs to keep the things on the road. Turbos ain’t cheap, and can have myriad problems.
Nissan’s CVTs were almost disastrous early on, so while they have them fixed now, it’s a little cringe to think about them changing up their CVTs for a new drivetrain.
The problem is, we’ll just have to wait and see who has to fork over cash if these potential problems start rearing their heads.
Well Scotty is selective with his data. It is true that the carbon dioxide emissions only had a 7% decrease;
but the 2021 2.5 liter NA engine was 181-hp/181-lb-ft while the 2022 1.5 liter turbocharged engine has 201-hp/225-lb-ft
He certainly has scared a lot of people about turbo engines
I lost all interest at Scotty Kilmer. That idiot doesn’t know his backside from a hole in the ground. It is too bad, at one time Nissan was one of the best of Asian imports at the time. Thinking 80s and 90s. I nearly bought a 1996 Maxima years ago. It was a nice car at the time, which was the early to mid 2000s. Their little pickups were pretty darn decent too. It seemed to fall apart in the 2000s.
Why Scotty Kilmer should shut up in 2022 but won't.
Nissan had a good 2021. They're not out of the woods yet but profits are up and even with the chip shortage they've revised their H2 2021 estimate upwards. The new VC-Turbo motors are pretty trick, variable compression turbo setups are pletty slick. Good numbers on paper, good boost in efficiency, but most importantly unlike other wildarsed tricksy motors (Mazda Skyactiv-X), they don't cost both your arms. You can have your VC-Turbo and keep your arms to drive your car with! Nissan's problem is, like Mazda's, limited R&D budget.
The VQ motor had a good run but they need something that can put out decent amounts of power that doesn't get crappy gas mileage which basically is the same thing everyone needs. Same reason Honda does, same reason Subaru runs a 2.4 Turbo rather than a V6 anymore. As long as you can figure out how to keep the production costs low enough that's the way to go. That's always been the problem. If the 1.5T cost $5,000 more than the 2.0-2.5 NA it wasn't of any use at all.
Why Scotty Kilmer should shut up in 2022 but won't.
If the 1.5T cost $5,000 more than the 2.0-2.5 NA it wasn't of any use at all.
I guess these small turbocharged engines are the wave of the future. Surprisingly enough the worst carbon dioxide emitter of the lot seems to be the General Motors, Ford and Stellantis engines
General Motors, Ford and Stellantis
liters turbocharged engines - cylinders- grams of carbon dioxide per mile 1.2L
3 296 ENCORE GX FWD Buick
3 296 TRAILBLAZER FWD Chevrolet 1.3L
3 297 ENCORE GX FWD Buick
3 324 ENCORE GX AWD
3 289 TRAILBLAZER FWD Chevrolet
3 313 TRAILBLAZER AWD
4 329 Renegade 4x2 Jeep
4 347 Renegade 4x4
4 372 Renegade Trailhawk 4x4
4 356 500X AWD FIAT 1.4L
4 342 ENCORE AWD Buick
4 329 ENCORE FWD
4 342 TRAX AWD Chevrolet
4 329 TRAX FWD 1.5L
3 293 ESCAPE FWD Ford
3 318 ESCAPE AWD
3 342 BRONCO SPORT 4WD
4 275 MALIBU Chevrolet
4 327 EQUINOX AWD
4 318 EQUINOX FWD
4 342 TERRAIN AWD GMC
4 330 TERRAIN FWD
Asian Brands
liters turbocharged engines - cylinders- grams of carbon dioxide per mile 1.5L
False prediction. Nissan is a global motor vehicle company, and the US is just a portion of their global market. Even if they flop with the turbo 1.5L engine in the Rogue, that is not the end of Nissan. Nissan has a pretty good track record with building good internal combustion engines, so I doubt this 1.5L engine is going to be a failure.
The prediction is total clickbait. I just repeated it to see what people thought of Scotty's prediction that switching the engines is going to increase maintenance problems and undermine sales of the Rogue.
The thing about a new less reliable engine is that problems are more apt to show up after the warranty expires. So it takes quite a few years before issues are known.
For instance look at the Subaru Powertrain Limited Warranty: POWERTRAIN COVERAGE for all models is 5 years or 60,000 miles, whichever comes first. Subject to the exclusions listed in this warranty, it covers the major powertrain components listed below.
Powertrain Coverage Components:
Engine
Engine block and all internal parts
Cylinder heads and valve trains
Oil pump, oil pan
Timing belts or gears and cover
Water pump
Flywheel
Intake and exhaust manifolds
Oil seals and gaskets
For nearly a decade the head gaskets on many Subaru's were failing, but nearly all of them failed after 60,000 miles
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