If you dont like Portland why not just move out (Donald: apartment, home)

[Yankeemama]

Originally Posted by The Cactus Leaguer

LaMarcus Aldridge apparently took 58rhodes's advice

He can buy a palace in Texas...but then, you are still in Texas.

[PNW-type-gal]

The postings that drive me nuts are the ones that complain about California in the Oregon forum. Granted, I live near the border and keep an eye on California politics as they might affect us, but I really don't want to hear about what is wrong with California in the Oregon forum.

[Mini-apple-less]

Originally Posted by Ms_Christina

"Why not just move"

That's a very narrow-minded view of the world. There are thousands of reasons why someone cannot relocate. Otherwise there would be no ghettos.

Well, awareness of class issues is not the forte of people in this part of the world, unfortunately. I think it's a massive "blind spot" in the progressivism of the West Coast. Someone might be a flaming liberal in every other aspect here (I use that term as a compliment), yet act like a Tea Party conservative when it comes to labor or poverty related issues.

There is a huge unwillingness to admit that poverty exists in the Pacific Northwest and not everybody here is comfortably middle-class or wealthy.

[Mini-apple-less]

Originally Posted by oldtintype

So how is being upset with rental increases that are among the 7th highest in the county mean that people don't like Portland? There's a difference between dislike and concern. I have no problem personally with rental increases because it doesn't affect me. However, it affects a lot of other people already living here (and that does concern me) which will turn Portland into a city like SF--one where you have only wealthy and poor people, not a lot in between, and most of what made the city great--art, food, culture, music, etc. will go away because people can't afford to stay here. Economic diversity is important to a city. The middle class leaving is problematic.

I know it sounds like I hate Portland but I really don't, I just hate what the city and region is becoming due to the elitism and poverty denialism that's so rampant in that city (and really the whole USA) these days. If I hated Portland and the Northwest I wouldn't care if it was becoming unaffordable to an entire class of the people who live there. And it hurts natives to the region the most.

[yamsnno]

[quote=karlsch;40274635]This is a relocation forum – it's not a Chamber of Commerce forum where you would only read the good things about a location.

This attitude you speak of, is all you need to know abut the people you will encounter if you live in Portland, Oregon. You can decide if that is something you can live with at work, the grocery store, your boss… Oh yeah, lots of the "Portland rudeness!"

[j_k_k]

I don't find Portland rude at all. It has the private space bubble thing in proportion to its size as an urban area, meaning the bigger it is, and the more crowded it is, the more the residents of a place tend to ignore one another absent a compelling reason. If you're the only two people on the sidewalk in Maupin, probably you say hello (if there are sidewalks in Maupin). If you're the only two on the sidewalk in Queens or Philadelphia, probably you don't. It's like how Americans go to Paris and come back saying how rude the French are. Well, it's basically the New York City of France, so one doesn't expect a small-town friendliness.

Relative to its size, Portland is probably friendlier than one would expect, because when circumstances do cause people to have encounters, in my experience the majority are polite and friendly. Orlando is just as big, and decidedly less friendly (and often very stupid). If there's a friendliness downfall here, it would be that people make very abrupt maneuvers of the kind that in some places, most people would put on their blinker and have faith that someone would let them in. And I'm not sure why people don't develop that faith, because so far, it has worked great for me. Put on your signal, give someone else a chance to be a Good Guy or Good Gal, and often enough they'll choose to do so.

[Squidlo]

Originally Posted by Yankeemama

He can buy a palace in Texas...but then, you are still in Texas.

I miss my family & friends in Portland. COL & bit of luck has me in a "palace" of sorts (took awhile I will admit). The ROI is better here for your time and efforts. Imagine living in Laurelhurst for under 250K with property tax under 4k. I have a museum and a huge park in walking distance. I don't regret the move at all. My personal space is important to me. The quality of the space is important as well. I've said it before and I will say it here, "scraping to get by in Portland for the scenery" is not on my to do list. I can fly in and soak up all Portland has to offer, visit friends/family and then fly back to my wonderful green spot.

So, yeah I didn't like it anymore and I moved. After 30+ years of working just to say "wow I live in Portland, the coolest city ever" I figured it out.

Be objective when you speak. I have the experience to speak and the honesty to tell it like it is.

[Yankeemama]

Originally Posted by Squidlo

I miss my family & friends in Portland. COL & bit of luck has me in a "palace" of sorts (took awhile I will admit). The ROI is better here for your time and efforts. Imagine living in Laurelhurst for under 250K with property tax under 4k. I have a museum and a huge park in walking distance. I don't regret the move at all. My personal space is important to me. The quality of the space is important as well. I've said it before and I will say it here, "scraping to get by in Portland for the scenery" is not on my to do list. I can fly in and soak up all Portland has to offer, visit friends/family and then fly back to my wonderful green spot.

So, yeah I didn't like it anymore and I moved. After 30+ years of working just to say "wow I live in Portland, the coolest city ever" I figured it out.

Be objective when you speak. I have the experience to speak and the honesty to tell it like it is.

I never would think of Portland as the coolest city ever... not even close. I guess our benchmarks for an amazing city are very different. Portland is a great place to live but it's more of a big small town. That's fine and I was ready to give up NYC and not go back to my hometown, S.F., or try to find a place in SoCal so Portland was an acceptable option. I, too, understand what it's like to move somewhere because struggling wasn't ok anymore. Your city was Portland and mine was NYC. I get it. I grew up in S.F. and lived on the East Coast, for the better part of my adulthood so yeah, I could never live in Texas. I just find the West and East coasts desirable for a bunch of reasons. Good go hear that Texas is a good fit for you though as you are saving money living there.

[VTHokieFan]

Originally Posted by Yankeemama

He can buy a palace in Texas...but then, you are still in Texas.

Is Texas that much worse than Oregon? Taking off the rose colored glasses for a second, what does Oregon actually do better than Texas?

[EasyBeezy]

One thing I noticed is that many people in Portland seem to be convinced that they are living in the best place on the planet and that they could be happy in no other place. I guess that's what gave rise to the Oregon with green heart in the middle stickers. It's as though they've never seen 82nd Ave, never been hit up for change in a random place by a teenager with no teeth, never peeked that their fellow Portlanders on a Tri-Met bus, or never been screwed over by a weaselly landlord. Portland is not the land of milk and honey. It's a decent place in a nice landscape. Nothing more, nothing less.