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I can't tell you with the Pack, but if you had asked me that about the Giants, I might have a few ideas...lol.
Well, I think we pretty much know the answer with the Giants prior to Parcells. The Maras.. I don't think anyone other than Parcells could have had success in that mess.
Well, I think we pretty much know the answer with the Giants prior to Parcells. The Maras.. I don't think anyone other than Parcells could have had success in that mess.
I thought Bill was acting as GM as well.. The biggest thing I remember about the Giants from that time, as I've said before.. Was jim Burt having the numbers on the sides of his jersey rather than the front.
I thought Bill was acting as GM as well.. The biggest thing I remember about the Giants from that time, as I've said before.. Was jim Burt having the numbers on the sides of his jersey rather than the front.
I don't think Parcells had much GM power then. First, the Giants were his first head coaching job. Second, Young was the guy who hired him. Young was in full control. Now, I can see Parcells' input meaning something later on down the line, but he wasnt ever acting GM.
There is nothing like being a suffering Chicago/'St. Louis/ Arizona Cardinal fan. Their history goes back a little over 100 years and are one of three remaining charter clubs, along with the Green Bay Packers and the Chicago Bears. They easily have the NFL's worst record of all time in NFL history; 588-800-41. They have won two NFL championships, 1925 and 1947. Until the Raiders moved to Las Vegas, they were the only club that I can recall who played in three different cities; Chicago, St. Louis, and Phoenix. The Bidwell family had ownership of the franchise for nearly eight decades.
When I think of stability in a franchise, I think of Pittsburgh. From 1969 to this current season, there have been only three head coaches-Chuck Noll, Bill Cowher, and Mike Tomlin.
With the Cardinals, they've had 15 head coaches from 1977 to this current season. And the best head coach they ever (Don Coryell) had got locked into a season long argument with ownership over how poorly the players were treated. The Bidwell family had always been known as cheapskates but by this time the players started to play out their options because of insulting contract offers. But what got Coryell really steamed was that ownership didn't give two craps what Coryell was suggesting on how to improve the team through the draft. He had no input-none.
And that cost the franchise in the long run. The Bud Wilkinson experiment was a flop and then some good football men got run off the job; people like Jim Hanifan and Gene Stallings. By 1986 they were playing at home to about 35,000 people, and in the 1987 season they hit bottom. Their home game against the New Orleans Saints on October 11th drew a whopping crowd of 11,795. By 1988 they were bound for Phoenix. St. Louis had enough of the Bidwell family and for good reason.
1. Owners that stay out of the way, unless they have great skills (For example: Dr. Buss - Lakers) and just don't *think* they have great skills.
2. Owners that make wise management picks...and then see #1.
3. Consistency and class of the operation.
4. Having a lot of money to spend in a sport without real salary caps.
5. Some level of luck here and there. (Most sports are newer, look at the NBA, Spurs built a 20 year dynasty around David Robinson breaking his leg ironically)
There is nothing like being a suffering Chicago/'St. Louis/ Arizona Cardinal fan. Their history goes back a little over 100 years and are one of three remaining charter clubs, along with the Green Bay Packers and the Chicago Bears. They easily have the NFL's worst record of all time in NFL history; 588-800-41. They have won two NFL championships, 1925 and 1947. Until the Raiders moved to Las Vegas, they were the only club that I can recall who played in three different cities; Chicago, St. Louis, and Phoenix. The Bidwell family had ownership of the franchise for nearly eight decades.
When I think of stability in a franchise, I think of Pittsburgh. From 1969 to this current season, there have been only three head coaches-Chuck Noll, Bill Cowher, and Mike Tomlin.
With the Cardinals, they've had 15 head coaches from 1977 to this current season. And the best head coach they ever (Don Coryell) had got locked into a season long argument with ownership over how poorly the players were treated. The Bidwell family had always been known as cheapskates but by this time the players started to play out their options because of insulting contract offers. But what got Coryell really steamed was that ownership didn't give two craps what Coryell was suggesting on how to improve the team through the draft. He had no input-none.
And that cost the franchise in the long run. The Bud Wilkinson experiment was a flop and then some good football men got run off the job; people like Jim Hanifan and Gene Stallings. By 1986 they were playing at home to about 35,000 people, and in the 1987 season they hit bottom. Their home game against the New Orleans Saints on October 11th drew a whopping crowd of 11,795. By 1988 they were bound for Phoenix. St. Louis had enough of the Bidwell family and for good reason.
18 years playing at ASU. Not known for their luxury seating areas, not to mention the NFL refusing to alter kickoff times.
I love the sunshine, but man those September games were brutal.
The battle for a new stadium was of soap opera quality.
I do enjoy some football in Glendale, too bad the bill remaining approaches a billion smackeroos.
Lions did it right. Fixed the Pontiac fiasco. As a fan, it's kinda cool to park at the same spot every time to see any of my favorite sports.
18 years playing at ASU. Not known for their luxury seating areas, not to mention the NFL refusing to alter kickoff times.
I went to two Bronco/Cardinal games at Sun Devil Stadium, 1989 and 2001. The 1989 game was fortunately on week 15, 2 o'clock kickoff with the temp around 80.
2001 was,whew, toasty. 6 p.m. kickoff with the temp when I sat down was 102 degrees.
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