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The author does not seem to be a well-adjusted person. Few men would want anyone who embodies her self-absorbed manner or combative attitudes. Not for long anyway.
As a Man i'm speaking for myself i don't want a 'strong independent woman' because that feminist rhetoric goes directly against what the point of marriage is supposed to be, which is a partnership. If you need to be 'independent' then by that logic stay single, Now this isn't to say that codependency is healthy in a marriage either; there needs to be a balance.
That author is toxic you can sense the hatred towards men.
I'm not really understanding the angst and bitterness some people seem to have for this blog.
The author is speaking to a specific sub-set of men, and ONLY to a specific sub-set. Those who say they want "Strong and independent women." If this kind of man isn't you...then it doesn't apply to you. If, on the other hand, you've caught yourself saying things like "I want a woman who can pull her own weight, who can make the bacon, and cook it up in the pan"...well...maybe you're the audience the blog is meant for.
A truly independent woman will not NEED you. That is the flip side of the coin of the independent woman. She may want you. She may think you're worth compromising for. She may sacrifice for you...but she will NOT need you. And she won't give you much truck, if you try laying down rules on her.
I don't want someone who is dependent or needs to be babied. The flip side of that is who wants someone that's so independent that they don't want or value a partner.
I don't want someone who is dependent or needs to be babied. The flip side of that is who wants someone that's so independent that they don't want or value a partner.
But I don't think she's saying she doesn't want or value a partner. I think she's saying and trying to specify, that she doesn't NEED.
I think we're all familiar with some of the male characters who come on this forum and try to tell us females what we think and why we do what we do. And I think MOST of us females roll our eyes. And I think MOST of us females can say we'd rather be alone, than put up with that nonsense from that kind of guy.
I don't want someone who is dependent or needs to be babied. The flip side of that is who wants someone that's so independent that they don't want or value a partner.
Did you notice, the blogger said independent women do want men? The was pretty much the whole point.
Interesting article but I have to wonder if the writer isn’t men bashing to some extent. She goes on about how men Want/must /feel the need to dominate a independent woman.
I actually don't enjoy when women self-describe and lead with either of those two qualities. It comes off as standoffish like she's already putting walls up. Saying "strong, independent women still want partners, though!" is a farce, amounting to "I want someone I can keep within arm's reach, but keep them at arm's length". Sorry, not your man.
I'd much prefer someone who actually wants to be in the home (they're out there, I married one) and not feel they have something to prove to the world by being said "strong, independent woman".
I would say that the author didn't present any new arguments and she used a lot of cliches. There were no profound or new revelations in her writing, or interesting or unusual points of view.
I agree.
Personally I equate someone that says "Strong Independent Woman" with a guy that refers to himself as an Alpha Male. Meaning that it's something that need not be declared. It's readily apparent, and those that loudly declare it are compensating for a lack of something that's often apparent to people from the outside.
Pretty sure most guys do for the same reason. No partnership possibilities there. That is why those types of women tend to stay single, but they seem happy to do so. Some people just are not cut out for a relationship. They are too wrapped up in their issues to give any consideration to another person. .
Or the person in question just doesn't find other people interesting enough to have close relationships with them.
I actually don't enjoy when women self-describe and lead with either of those two qualities. It comes off as standoffish like she's already putting walls up. Saying "strong, independent women still want partners, though!" is a farce, amounting to "I want someone I can keep within arm's reach, but keep them at arm's length". Sorry, not your man.
I'd much prefer someone who actually wants to be in the home (they're out there, I married one) and not feel they have something to prove to the world by being said "strong, independent woman".
Or someone that says "I enjoy my work/career" or "My long term career goals are important."
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