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Old 11-11-2023, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Coastal Georgia
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Because they are against the actions of the State of Israel, just as many Israelis and Jews are. Since you dont watch news or read newspapers, avoid news, you dont know the resistance by 100oks of Israelis who were protesting on the streets for the actions of Netanyahu. Those in the military were protesting. You dont know all this this that happened prior to the Hamas attack. You dont know the number of innocent civilians are being killed and their homes destroyed. You dont know that the UN is investigating and gathering evidence for war crimes by Natenyahu’s govt. And that is why you dont understand the bolded. You seem to absorb only that information that affirms what you choose to believe.
If you feel jews are terrorized on college campuses, they are not, how safe can you feel?
It just depends on who you listen to, doesn’t it? So you think that slaughtering children in their beds is perfectly justified? There is no use discussing it with you.
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Old 11-11-2023, 09:52 AM
 
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It just depends on who you listen to, doesn’t it? So you think that slaughtering children in their beds is perfectly justified? There is no use discussing it with you.
Do you think if one watches and reads news they support brutalizing children?
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Old 11-11-2023, 11:51 AM
 
Location: on the wind
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What is the concept behind support groups that one should consider?
Rather than reinventing the wheel, here's a summary of the support group concept:

https://www.helpguide.org/articles/t...ort-groups.htm
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Old 11-11-2023, 03:45 PM
 
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What do you think is the motivation of these liberal hate groups? Are their lives so empty that belonging to groups like this fulfills them? I don’t get it.
Well anti-Semitism of course has existed since the middle ages, it's not new.

Why is the extreme liberal left embracing anti-Semitism is another question (as it can exist in the extreme right as well). The easy answer is it falls into the other liberal causes dealing with the "haves" vs. "the have nots". Israel is a relatively prosperous state surrounded by poor countries. How they got there fits into the already historical preconceived notions they have about the inherent world power of Jews. Start with that, and everything else, the cause and effect, fits into place. The "have nots" become the heroes. All the atrocities these "have not" groups commit are forgiven, or justified.

The liberal hate groups you find on campus? Lots of these are Ivy League students, rich kids living off their mom and dad, first time away from home. These kids are brainless, listening to their pony-tailed teachers who never had a real job in there life. So just combine misinformation with the need to socially fit in, combined also with some professional agitators.

What is amusing is when one liberal cause conflicts with another. LBGTQ for instance. They take those views to Gaza and they will be dead within minutes.

Anyways, let's hope that the OP gets some help. Last I saw she was posting a Hamas propaganda video in the world forum that got locked up.

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Old 11-11-2023, 04:10 PM
 
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Well anti-Semitism of course has existed since the middle ages, it's not new.

Why is the extreme liberal left embracing anti-Semitism is another question (as it can exist in the extreme right as well). The easy answer is it falls into the other liberal causes dealing with the "haves" vs. "the have nots". Israel is a relatively prosperous state surrounded by poor countries. How they got there fits into the already historical preconceived notions they have about the inherent world power of Jews. Start with that, and everything else, the cause and effect, fits into place. The "have nots" become the heroes. All the atrocities they commit are forgiven, or justified.

The liberal hate groups you find on campus? Lots of these are Ivy League students, rich kids living off their mom and dad, first time away from home. These kids are brainless, listening to their pony-tailed teachers who never had a real job in there life. So just combine misinformation with the need to socially fit in, combined also with some professional agitators.

What is amusing is when one liberal cause conflicts with another. LBGTQ for instance. They take those views to Gaza and they will be dead within minutes.

Anyways, let's hope that the OP gets some help. Last I saw she was posting a Hamas propaganda video in the world forum that got locked up.

US republicans and democrat argue about politics much like Israelis argue about their own politics. Israel has more than one political party. Their government is dealing with a ongoing constitutional crisis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018â€...litical_crisis. There is wide division there now.

The press criticize foreign government routinely. To criticize any country's politics is normal. People criticizing Israel's politics is no different.

Not that this is reported in the US press, but:

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Why Ireland's leaders are willing to be tougher on Israel than most

Ireland's President Michael D Higgins, meanwhile, has accused Benjamin Netanyahu's government of nothing less than undermining international human rights norms.

"To announce in advance that you will break international law and to do so on an innocent population, it reduces all the code that was there from Second World War on protection of civilians and it reduces it to tatters," Higgins said in mid-October as the air campaign in Gaza began to claim increasingly more civilian lives.
https://www.euronews.com/2023/11/10/...rael-than-most

By your standard, the Ireland's government is anti-semitic which is not true as it has a Jewish population.
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Old 11-11-2023, 11:33 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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NPR is one of the better news sources but no one needs to stay glued to the news. At least 99% has no bearing on us on a daily basis. We have three local TV stations and each one devotes about four hours a day on local news. No one needs that much constant haranguing of every news story repeated day after day. Sure, there are important stories now and again but once you hear the details you don’t need to have it repeated six times a day.

Many people can’t tell the difference between news or newsy entertainment like we see on news networks or something that is just opinion or flat out fake news and conspiracy theories.

After 9/11 I became a news junky and spent too much time following every story. There was good reason for that for a while but no reason to be obsessed with it month after month. I finally limited my focus on news and took up other things and projects.
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Old 11-12-2023, 07:46 AM
 
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US republicans and democrat argue about politics much like Israelis argue about their own politics. Israel has more than one political party. Their government is dealing with a ongoing constitutional crisis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018â€...litical_crisis.
Yes indeed. They are dealing with it as any free and open society should - public debate. I don't think they are burning down public buildings, assaulting each other during counter marches, spray painting racist messages, or pulling down statues fortunately. Currently, Netanyahu is also in trouble, probably rightfully so, for the lack of security and intelligence that resulted in the October 7th massacre.

But we are getting way off topic....
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Old 11-12-2023, 08:28 AM
 
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There is a huge blackout in the US media. Our media is controlled much like the Soviet Union’s media. It’s been this way for a long time. When George Bush made claims of WMD, not one member of the Democratic Party or newspaper questioned his sources. It’s only gotten worse since then.

It’s the same with Israeli Palestinian issue. The US press just refuses to report on this ongoing 75 year old crisis. The only reports are when Palestinians react to Jewish terrorism. Then it’s how can the Palestinians be so mean/uncivilized/murderous.

God bless the Jew who are speaking up for the Palestinians now.
I agree about the failure of media, especially NYT, during the Iraq war. Everybody lied and it was a criminal tragedy what US did to Iraq.
I feel NPR. BBC, and PBS are doing a credible job of reporting from the location, asking good questions. As it always happens the tragedy and horror of the slaughter of civilians gets distant after a while and we get inured to the pain and carry on with life.
More than shutting off the media, shutting off P&CE is more effective. Selectively using the ignore function is good for mental health as well.
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Old 11-12-2023, 08:53 AM
 
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What the heck? Is everyone seeing what I am seeing above? ^^^^ One post inserted into another post, not as a quote? Some sort of glitch in the matrix?
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Old 11-12-2023, 08:57 AM
 
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US republicans and democrat argue about politics much like Israelis argue about their own politics. Israel has more than one political party. Their government is dealing with a ongoing constitutional crisis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018â€...litical_crisis.
Yes indeed. They are dealing with it as any free and open society should - public debate. I don't think they are burning down public buildings, assaulting each other during counter marches, spray painting racist messages, or pulling down statues fortunately. Currently, Netanyahu is also in trouble, probably rightfully so, for the lack of security and intelligence that resulted in the October 7th massacre.

But we are getting way off topic....
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