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Old 11-21-2016, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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I never heard of this, hope it's true.
It's not.

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Many HOAs have rules about percentage of renters. That may be what she was looking for.
This was my first thought.
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Old 11-21-2016, 08:42 AM
 
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What city do you live in? City laws overrule HOA bylaws. I had 7 dogs. 3 were work dogs. My HOA couldn't enforce their 2 dog rule since my city had a 4 dog rule. My max was 17 for two weeks during an emergency.
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Btw. 4 of the dogs are 90-100 pounds+.
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I never heard of this, hope it's true.
It is hogwash. That poster has it all wrong. Actually as a rule, city/state laws will trump a lease however, this is NOT one of the laws that does. The city is only stating a maximum amount of dogs allowed per residence however, a LL has every right to restrict that to less than that max OR to even "no dogs allowed" for that matter.
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Old 11-21-2016, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Kansas City North
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Chill for now. Neighbor said they had meeting about numbers of owners vs. renters, and that's what she asked about. I assume the word "dog" was not uttered. Cross that bridge when you come to it. But I wouldn't acquire any additional pets right now either.
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Old 11-21-2016, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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It's not.



This was my first thought.
Another thought...we recently decided to charge owners who are renting a fee of $100 per year. Brings in a tidy $2700 to offset the operating deficit. Owners are supposed to notify if the rent out, so maybe that HOA is doing something similar.
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Old 11-21-2016, 01:29 PM
 
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It is hogwash. That poster has it all wrong. Actually as a rule, city/state laws will trump a lease however, this is NOT one of the laws that does. The city is only stating a maximum amount of dogs allowed per residence however, a LL has every right to restrict that to less than that max OR to even "no dogs allowed" for that matter.
I thought the OP was asking about their HOA dog rule.

Obviously a LL can choose if pets/no pets are allowed in a rental.
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Old 11-21-2016, 02:04 PM
 
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What city do you live in? City laws overrule HOA bylaws. I had 7 dogs. 3 were work dogs. My HOA couldn't enforce their 2 dog rule since my city had a 4 dog rule. My max was 17 for two weeks during an emergency.
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I thought the OP was asking about their HOA dog rule.

Obviously a LL can choose if pets/no pets are allowed in a rental.
The OP was talking about HOA dog rules. But what you stated about city laws vs. HOA rules is not correct. HOA is not allowed to go over the maximum that the city ordinance allows per residence however, the HOA can mandate any rules they want for pets as long as it doesn't exceed the city ordinance maximum.
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Old 11-21-2016, 07:21 PM
 
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The OP was talking about HOA dog rules. But what you stated about city laws vs. HOA rules is not correct. HOA is not allowed to go over the maximum that the city ordinance allows per residence however, the HOA can mandate any rules they want for pets as long as it doesn't exceed the city ordinance maximum.
I never said HOA can go over city ordinance. I said the city law overrides HOA bylaw (at least where I live, which is why I asked the OP where he lived). Maybe it's different in each state.

My HOA bylaw says 2 max dogs. The city says 4 adult dogs. That does not include puppies. I'm not 100% sure but it may be up to 15 for under 6 months old.

I had my 4 "pet" dogs living with me in my house. The HOA could not enforce the two dog rule. All the other dogs I had either belonged to the city/state. HOA did not have the authority to enforce any "rules" over them, nor could they fine me for having them in addition to my "pet" dogs.
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Old 11-21-2016, 07:49 PM
 
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I never said HOA can go over city ordinance. I said the city law overrides HOA bylaw (at least where I live, which is why I asked the OP where he lived). Maybe it's different in each state.

My HOA bylaw says 2 max dogs. The city says 4 adult dogs. That does not include puppies. I'm not 100% sure but it may be up to 15 for under 6 months old.

I had my 4 "pet" dogs living with me in my house. The HOA could not enforce the two dog rule. All the other dogs I had either belonged to the city/state. HOA did not have the authority to enforce any "rules" over them, nor could they fine me for having them in addition to my "pet" dogs.
Oh brother, and I never said that you did say that 'HOA can go over city ordinance' or override the city ordinance. Where are you getting that from? If you read my posts again you will see that I said if the city ordinance is max 4 dogs that means that no resident can have over 4 dogs. HOWEVER, that does NOT mean that a LL has to allow 4 dogs. A LL can choose to allow anywhere from NO dogs UP TO 4 dogs. They do not have to allow 4 dogs. That would be pure insanity!
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Old 11-21-2016, 10:14 PM
 
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Oh brother, and I never said that you did say that 'HOA can go over city ordinance' or override the city ordinance. Where are you getting that from? If you read my posts again you will see that I said if the city ordinance is max 4 dogs that means that no resident can have over 4 dogs. HOWEVER, that does NOT mean that a LL has to allow 4 dogs. A LL can choose to allow anywhere from NO dogs UP TO 4 dogs. They do not have to allow 4 dogs. That would be pure insanity!
Oh sista... I feel like you just want to argue with me. I already agreed that a LL can allow "limited to no pets". I don't know why you keep bringing in the LL rule. I already said I agreed that the LL can say no pets if that is what they want.

I was replying about the HOA bylaws.

I bolded where you are wrong. I was and am allowed more than the HOA's 2 dogs/city allowed 4 dogs rule. The law may vary by city/state. But there are always exceptions. This is a fact. At least where I live.
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Old 11-21-2016, 10:34 PM
 
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Oh sista... I feel like you just want to argue with me. I already agreed that a LL can allow "limited to no pets". I don't know why you keep bringing in the LL rule. I already said I agreed that the LL can say no pets if that is what they want.

I was replying about the HOA bylaws.

I bolded where you are wrong. I was and am allowed more than the HOA's 2 dogs/city allowed 4 dogs rule. The law may vary by city/state. But there are always exceptions. This is a fact. At least where I live.
There are states that prohibit HOA's (or similar) from outright barring small pets in certain housing, but no state I know allows a municipality to force a stakeholder from setting limits below the maximum municipal law. If the local law says a maximum of 4, the stakeholders can set from 0-4, not one over but certain as many under as they want. We'll need to actually read the law as it contradicts what we know of all states.
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