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Old 09-14-2010, 01:37 PM
 
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I've worked all over in retail/service when I was younger and it's always a small percentage who have expensive clothes and whatnot. Now if we are talking knockoff like ckhthankgod mentioned, that's a different story. You can get cheaply made chains and fake designer clothes for cheap at corner stores.
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Old 09-14-2010, 02:22 PM
 
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I've worked all over in retail/service when I was younger and it's always a small percentage who have expensive clothes and whatnot. Now if we are talking knockoff like ckhthankgod mentioned, that's a different story. You can get cheaply made chains and fake designer clothes for cheap at corner stores.


You can even get knockoffs at the Public Market. I have seen "ghetto" people as you would say strip there car and make it into a "nice car".
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Old 09-14-2010, 10:45 PM
 
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All I know is that if I had to use a WIC card, I would take the trouble to dress as nicely as I could to maintain some semblance of self-respect. I wouldn't doubt that the attempt to dress to the nines in public while on welfare probably reflects shame more than any kind of genuine affluence. The payments these people receive are typically paltry and many of the bureaucrats who make a living off of handing them out can be awfully mean-spirited about it, doubling the attack on the human spirit. Having to sit 8 hours a day waiting in line at the welfare office is "work" in my book as I would rather eat glass than do that (as I suspect is the case with a lot of welfare recipients).

I agree that starting small businesses is the best path for people to get out of poverty. Always has been the poor man's ladder, along with real estate ownership. NY state is not a friendly place to accomplish this as the workmen's comp taxes are formidable (my friend's employment agency collapsed under the weight of these a few year's back) and other state-created barriers to entry are painfully high.
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Old 09-20-2010, 09:38 PM
 
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Have you ever been to a different city? The houses are much worse, the ghettos are much worse. Rochester is NOT that bad compared to places Ive lived.
As I'm sure everyone on this board knows, that video doesn't even BEGIN to depict how rough some areas in Rochester truly are. I'd LOVE to know what cities you've lived in where the 'ghettos' are "MUCH WORSE" than certain areas in Rochester. Don't even think about mentioning Tampa--having lived there for 2 years, I have seen the most dangerous areas in the entire city, and to be honest, the only reason I knew they were 'bad areas' is because people told me. That is not to say that these areas aren't dangerous, but compared to Rochester, they simply don't look like they are.

I only mention Tampa because I remember reading in your posts that you live there (or have lived there). If you can tell me you've also lived in Detroit or Camden or something, then by all means, just let me know!

A LOT of Rochester is very safe. But because our crime is so confined into comparatively small areas, our 'bad' sections are REALLY bad--just as bad as anywhere in America. If you honestly believe that the worst areas in Rochester "aren't that bad" you've either: A) never actually seen them or B) refuse to compromise your blind allegiance to Rochester.
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Old 09-21-2010, 04:55 AM
 
Location: Rochester NY (western NY)
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B) refuse to compromise your blind allegiance to Rochester.
This seems to be the case with everyone here except you, Howard Roarke, Aorre, and myself.
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Old 09-21-2010, 06:05 AM
 
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People not buying into your sweeping generalizations and racist posts does not make them have a blind allegiance. That just makes them educated.
Most posters on here do not have a blind allegiance as they have criticisms of the area. This has been pointed out when ever you make the allegiance claim yet you keep ignoring it.
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Old 09-21-2010, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Rochester NY (western NY)
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I wonder how many threads you can use the term "sweeping generalizations" As long as you believe what you read, that's all that matters
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Old 09-21-2010, 09:11 AM
 
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As I'm sure everyone on this board knows, that video doesn't even BEGIN to depict how rough some areas in Rochester truly are. I'd LOVE to know what cities you've lived in where the 'ghettos' are "MUCH WORSE" than certain areas in Rochester. Don't even think about mentioning Tampa--having lived there for 2 years, I have seen the most dangerous areas in the entire city, and to be honest, the only reason I knew they were 'bad areas' is because people told me. That is not to say that these areas aren't dangerous, but compared to Rochester, they simply don't look like they are.

I only mention Tampa because I remember reading in your posts that you live there (or have lived there). If you can tell me you've also lived in Detroit or Camden or something, then by all means, just let me know!

A LOT of Rochester is very safe. But because our crime is so confined into comparatively small areas, our 'bad' sections are REALLY bad--just as bad as anywhere in America. If you honestly believe that the worst areas in Rochester "aren't that bad" you've either: A) never actually seen them or B) refuse to compromise your blind allegiance to Rochester.
Bad is bad, but I think what people are saying is that the volume can vary by city. I've been through many parts of Rochester and I've never felt like it was a city of random violence or anything like that, for the most part.

A city like Detroit comes to mind and I've been in neighbrohoods that were considered the hood by people there. My great grandmother lived in one such neighborhood there. Trust me, I was surprised by how some parts of that city looked. I knew the neighborhood was no joke when me and my dad went to the nearby Church's Chicken and it had a bulletproof partion at the counter where you have to order your food. With that said, they have some very, very nice neighborhoods in the city of Detroit too.
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Old 09-21-2010, 09:38 AM
 
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People not buying into your sweeping generalizations and racist posts does not make them have a blind allegiance. That just makes them educated.
Most posters on here do not have a blind allegiance as they have criticisms of the area. This has been pointed out when ever you make the allegiance claim yet you keep ignoring it.
Amen. In fact, with the exception of one, the posters overtaxed mentioned simply do the exact opposite and are blind to any GOOD news in Rochester (for them no matter what it is, it is always outweighed by bad). No blind allegiance here. I have never denied any of Rochester's problems; the high property taxes, terrible city schools, or intense segregation. However, I'm not going to make snide remarks (such as "find a better city to live and work in" as was the advice given by someone when a poster asked about advice on where to live in Rochester if they moved here) just to further substantiate my own opinions of the area. I'm sorry for anyone who is not happy here and hope they find happiness somewhere else. But to be consistently negative about the place where you live or grew up and have a snide attitude towards anyone who disagrees with you is simply not healthy.
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Old 09-21-2010, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Rochester NY (western NY)
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There would have to be good news in Rochester in order to be blind to it. Just a little tip. Personally, I'm having a tough time thinking of any positive piece of good news that involved the city of Rochester moving forward and progressing as a modern city that wants to be taken seriously by the rest of the country.
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