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Old 07-24-2014, 01:49 PM
 
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Before it was a park it was an amusement park, surrounded by hotels and restaurants. That's the heritage of Charlotte and this plan aims to revitalize that.
You really don't know what's going on.

No, they are not revitalizing any such thing.

Back in those days -- before 1920, there were activities for everyone. The developer is not providing any activities. Only housing and a couple of restaurants.

The housing limits activities for the general public.

The only people who benefit in this hare-brained scheme is the development company.

See what experts know for a fact about responsible waterfront development, and you'll see that Rochester has it all wrong. The developer gave them the wrong information so that he could benefit financially. He does not have the city's best interests in mind: Project for Public Spaces | How to Transform a Waterfront
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Old 07-24-2014, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Charleston, SC metro
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I didn't mean to say that they are revitalizing an amusement area. I was meaning to say they are bringing interest back to a dead area.

Honestly, it's not what I would want either. I have been very outspoken about a retail boardwalk there, one of NONE on the great lakes. Then build whatever you want in the background and it will be successful. Give the people something to want aside from an old neighborhood with dying retail, a gang-filled park, and a bacterial-filled beach.

#CharlotteBoardwalk

Give me a reason to want to visit that cesspool aside from seeing family, please. I beg of you.
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Old 07-25-2014, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Rochester NY (western NY)
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Attracting massive crowds to the beach shouldn't even be a subject of discussion since they're doing away with 2/3rds of the parking. Nobody is going to want to go down there because you won't be able to find anywhere to park.
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Old 07-25-2014, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC metro
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Attracting massive crowds to the beach shouldn't even be a subject of discussion since they're doing away with 2/3rds of the parking. Nobody is going to want to go down there because you won't be able to find anywhere to park.
That's a good point. They go from too much parking now to not enough. I can't imagine trekking from as far up Lake Ave as the Parkway just to get to the beach.
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Old 07-25-2014, 11:26 AM
 
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I didn't mean to say that they are revitalizing an amusement area. I was meaning to say they are bringing interest back to a dead area.

Honestly, it's not what I would want either. I have been very outspoken about a retail boardwalk there, one of NONE on the great lakes. Then build whatever you want in the background and it will be successful. Give the people something to want aside from an old neighborhood with dying retail, a gang-filled park, and a bacterial-filled beach.

#CharlotteBoardwalk

Give me a reason to want to visit that cesspool aside from seeing family, please. I beg of you.
So we agree on something. Activities are needed. Reasons to go there. People don't go to the beach to see condos. It's a 2.8 acre spot. Certainly they can do something with it to benefit the city and not benefit a developer and his foreign investors.
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Old 07-26-2014, 07:13 AM
 
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People don't go to the beach to see condos.
With condos, people don't have to GO to the beach. They are already there!!!

What Charlotte needs is a critical mass of residents to support the retail shops. Once that proportion is met, you will see both residential and retail will grow. Just look at downtown. There are about 5-6000 people residing there now and retail is just starting to return.
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Old 07-26-2014, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC metro
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With condos, people don't have to GO to the beach. They are already there!!!

What Charlotte needs is a critical mass of residents to support the retail shops. Once that proportion is met, you will see both residential and retail will grow. Just look at downtown. There are about 5-6000 people residing there now and retail is just starting to return.
I've heard this over and over. Mixed use is what they needed to do for that.
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Old 07-26-2014, 09:44 AM
 
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I've heard this over and over. Mixed use is what they needed to do for that.

Mixed use is exactly what the city has proposed.
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Old 07-26-2014, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Charleston, SC metro
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Mixed use is exactly what the city has proposed.
Excellent. Putting just residential up is pointless, as is senior housing to erase the parking lots. There are a lot more people outside of the area that need to have reasons to get down there.

I've been saying it forever: boardwalk with retail shops; aquarium (county and university co-op); decent bars and restaurant scene.
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Old 07-26-2014, 04:07 PM
 
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I remember one time while attending the Rib Festival, the fighting and Wilding of teens. Experience was horrible, extremely unsafe for a family outing.
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