City starts planning to remove more of the Inner Loop (Buffalo: homes, neighborhoods)
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Yet again, a liberal, Democrat mayor, wants to spend taxpayer's money on a project with a very limited return on investment. For example, in the attached article it was implied that this roadway "divides" neighborhoods. For the people who hold that opinion, is it too much trouble to walk the 150 feet, to cross the bridge(s) over the expressway, that supposedly tears the neighborhoods apart? When it was new, and in good repair, this road was a quick, easy way to get across town...
Yet again, a liberal, Democrat mayor, wants to spend taxpayer's money on a project with a very limited return on investment. For example, in the attached article it was implied that this roadway "divides" neighborhoods. For the people who hold that opinion, is it too much trouble to walk the 150 feet, to cross the bridge(s) over the expressway, that supposedly tears the neighborhoods apart? When it was new, and in good repair, this road was a quick, easy way to get across town...
i believe what they mean by dividing the neighborhood is that it interrupts the fabric of the city in terms of connecting Downtown with adjacent neighborhoods.
I also think officials are looking at it from a perspective of development in the path of the loop.
Last edited by ckhthankgod; 07-19-2019 at 01:28 PM..
Yet again, a liberal, Democrat mayor, wants to spend taxpayer's money on a project with a very limited return on investment. For example, in the attached article it was implied that this roadway "divides" neighborhoods. For the people who hold that opinion, is it too much trouble to walk the 150 feet, to cross the bridge(s) over the expressway, that supposedly tears the neighborhoods apart? When it was new, and in good repair, this road was a quick, easy way to get across town...
Unless they are planning on removing the Amtrak lines, it will still divide the neighborhoods. Honestly the north side of downtown doesn't have the potential as the east side that's under construction now. Any development on the north side will be government built subsidized housing, while the current project is market rate built by private developers.
Unless they are planning on removing the Amtrak lines, it will still divide the neighborhoods. Honestly the north side of downtown doesn't have the potential as the east side that's under construction now. Any development on the north side will be government built subsidized housing, while the current project is market rate built by private developers.
There many neighborhoods across the country that are similar to those north of Downtown that have been gentrified. So, I don’t think that would be the only way that area of town would get developed. If anything, the affordability of the area and its proximity to Downtown may eventually make it appealing if things open up. Syracuse is dealing with a similar situation in select areas and it may be a matter of time there as well in regards to I-81.
Unless they are planning on removing the Amtrak lines, it will still divide the neighborhoods.
Good point! Furthermore, if you want to talk about "division", consider that the Genesee River divides the city in two, and the Irondequoit Bay, and it's basin to the south, divides the eastern part of Monroe County from the central and west sides.
Along that line, anybody remember the original plans for Interstate 390? That expressway was initially designed to continue it's northward path from the southern part of the state, and intersect with the already in place, Interstate 490, somewhere near Field St. In the mid-late 60s, a number of homes in the Highland/South Clinton Avenue area were torn down, in anticipation of this build, which then stalled due to "neighborhood group" intervention.
The difference with the loop versus the railroad track/line of way and the River is that the loop is something you can remove and you can build in its line of way. There is also the aspect of age that comes into play. Keep in mind that many cities have been doing this. So, it isn’t anything unique or exclusive to Rochester.
Another article that actually mentions examples from Rochester, Buffalo and Syracuse, among others, of highways that bisected/separated parts of those cities: https://www.citylab.com/transportati...n-list/584707/
Last edited by ckhthankgod; 07-20-2019 at 06:20 AM..
Good point! Furthermore, if you want to talk about "division", consider that the Genesee River divides the city in two, and the Irondequoit Bay, and it's basin to the south, divides the eastern part of Monroe County from the central and west sides.
Along that line, anybody remember the original plans for Interstate 390? That expressway was initially designed to continue it's northward path from the southern part of the state, and intersect with the already in place, Interstate 490, somewhere near Field St. In the mid-late 60s, a number of homes in the Highland/South Clinton Avenue area were torn down, in anticipation of this build, which then stalled due to "neighborhood group" intervention.
And further, when 390 hit 490, it was going to tie in with that end of the Inner Loop. Had that connection been made, the Inner Loop would have been much busier. Rochester has a problem with following through on projects like this
Yet again, a liberal, Democrat mayor, wants to spend taxpayer's money on a project with a very limited return on investment. For example, in the attached article it was implied that this roadway "divides" neighborhoods. For the people who hold that opinion, is it too much trouble to walk the 150 feet, to cross the bridge(s) over the expressway, that supposedly tears the neighborhoods apart? When it was new, and in good repair, this road was a quick, easy way to get across town...
Have you see the stuff being built one the portion of the inner loop that was already removed? This has a huge return on investment. Not only are you getting rid of a highway and especially bridges you no longer have to maintain, you're putting all that land back on the tax rolls. As a city tax payer, I cant wait to see them invest in this, and quite frankly I dont really care how easy it is to get "across town". Do you live in the city? Because if not, why should others pay for your convenient highway?
Have you see the stuff being built one the portion of the inner loop that was already removed? This has a huge return on investment. Not only are you getting rid of a highway and especially bridges you no longer have to maintain, you're putting all that land back on the tax rolls. As a city tax payer, I cant wait to see them invest in this, and quite frankly I dont really care how easy it is to get "across town". Do you live in the city? Because if not, why should others pay for your convenient highway?
Yes, but the east side already has a thriving residential and downtown adjacent. The northern part is totaling different. The money could be better spent doing something else. Remember, The Strong Museum and others were ready to develop the area. I haven't heard of any proposals for the northern portion. Besides, it is a busy part of highway. They would be better to cap it to create the connection and keep the highway open
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