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Old 01-31-2014, 07:34 PM
 
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In the west, this year is toast but there will be enough water with rationing.

If there is no water next year, get ready. You can't stockpile enough water to last very long and you can't do anything about water under your property, it gets taken and there is very little you can do about it.

It won't be the earthquake, hurricane, snow, tornado or anything like that. It will simply be lack of water.
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Old 02-01-2014, 08:52 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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The west and south west is going to get wacked the hardest....That's the price you pay for living in Paradise..... Moderator cut: inappropriate ....

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Old 02-01-2014, 08:53 AM
 
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I recall in the 1950's, an old elementary teacher told our class that by the time we graduated ( 1963) there would never be water shortages thanks to huge salination ( sp? ) plants using the ocean water on the west coast.

Not the first prediction she was wrong on.
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Old 02-01-2014, 12:28 PM
 
Location: SW MO
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Something to be said for the Ozark Refugium here. We have literally billions of gallons per day coming out of the ground all over the Ozarks each day. The Ozarks is home to more top-producing springs than anywhere else in the world. and we average 38-41 inches of rain per year, with creeks, rivers, lakes and ponds scattered all over the region. There are multiple million-plus gallon per day springs within 10 miles of my house. I can see three ponds from my porch, there are creeks in nearly every ravine, and a river within five miles of me. And I do not know how many small springs there are within a mile radius of here, as they are hidden in many of the Ozarks' hollows and glades. Water here will not be a problem unless there is a huge unforeseen geologic-shift type disaster. In addition, the overall hilly terrain and rocky soils keep farming small-scale, and the region is lightly populated, so there are no large-draw depletions of the aquifers. Only thing we have to worry about is a depressed economy, bugs and heat in the summer, tornados occasionally, the odd ice storm, and the drug scourge that seems to pervade every area of the US these days. All in all, not too bad(except for the bugs and heat...).
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Old 02-01-2014, 04:58 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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I recall in the 1950's, an old elementary teacher told our class that by the time we graduated ( 1963) there would never be water shortages thanks to huge salination ( sp? ) plants using the ocean water on the west coast.

Not the first prediction she was wrong on.


the USA could learn from the Saudi's about desalination plants.
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Old 02-01-2014, 09:29 PM
 
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There is plenty of water in the southwest! The problem is the water is difficult to obtain especially for large community consumption and for current traditional usage. But a well prepared person using modern methods can obtain enough water for survival if they prepared in advance for that need. If you just drive your doom-mobile out to the desert and expect to survive long term, your buzzard food. Take the time to explore, evaluate, select, plan and prepare for the need and you will have the water you need. It’s a myth that the current drought means no water; what it means is not enough water to support the population concentrations based on that populations unregulated current consumption ways over the long haul.
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Old 02-02-2014, 08:01 AM
 
Location: SW MO
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There is plenty of water in the southwest! The problem is the water is difficult to obtain especially for large community consumption and for current traditional usage. But a well prepared person using modern methods can obtain enough water for survival if they prepared in advance for that need. If you just drive your doom-mobile out to the desert and expect to survive long term, your buzzard food. Take the time to explore, evaluate, select, plan and prepare for the need and you will have the water you need. It’s a myth that the current drought means no water; what it means is not enough water to support the population concentrations based on that populations unregulated current consumption ways over the long haul.
^^^ What he said...
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Old 02-02-2014, 09:09 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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the USA could learn from the Saudi's about desalination plants.
There are already three being constructed in California or rather two being constructed and one being refurbished (it was built in Santa Barbara during the 1980's drought but has been shut down for 20 years as it cost so much to operate). That keeps the coast cities with water, albeit expensive water, however it won't be much good for crops. In the west most farmers are dependent upon the state water system and the state's reservoirs are pretty empty right now from extended years of drought. One staggering fact is that farmers make up 1% of California's population but consume 80% of the water while the other 38 million people only consume 20% of it.
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Old 02-02-2014, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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There is plenty of water in the southwest! The problem is the water is difficult to obtain especially for large community consumption and for current traditional usage. But a well prepared person using modern methods can obtain enough water for survival if they prepared in advance for that need. If you just drive your doom-mobile out to the desert and expect to survive long term, your buzzard food. Take the time to explore, evaluate, select, plan and prepare for the need and you will have the water you need. It’s a myth that the current drought means no water; what it means is not enough water to support the population concentrations based on that populations unregulated current consumption ways over the long haul.
It's good for now but in a mega drought, which lasts for decades, water supplies would run low pretty quickly. A mega drought is what brought down most of the Native American cultures in the southwest.
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:20 PM
 
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It's good for now but in a mega drought, which lasts for decades, water supplies would run low pretty quickly. A mega drought is what brought down most of the Native American cultures in the southwest.
Low is not none. You can live through a mega drought in the SW if you properly plan and prepare. Although a mega drought was a factor in the loss of many Native Amercian communities, they did not have today's modern equipment, technology, understanding and resources to manage dwindling water supplies. Additionally, providing necessary amount of water for a community is no where close to providing for a family unit. I'm not seeking a water source that can provide 350,000 gallons a day to provide for the needs of the community, I need a source that will provide 20 gallons a day. The aquifer the municipality is tapping may have 100 water inlet sources, some providing 1,000's of gallons a day, others maybe a few hundred; I only need to tap one of the inlet source to get more than enough for my needs. I do this by planning and PREPARING for the need.

THis is certinly not for a person unfamiliar with the southwest deserts because its more than finding a water source, its researching the viability of that water source over the long haul and under various enviromental conditions. You also have to accept that if you do not have the financial resources to do teh studies, ressearch and testing needed to identify a relaible source of water, your better off in an area awhere resoucres are on the ground to be picked up because desert living is for the hardy, not the weekend preppers.
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