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When we planted this orchard, we knew that it would take ten years for the trees to mature. So we built small chicken coops between them.
Then as the trees began producing, the limbs were weak and they had a tendency to break and split each tree in half. I contacted our Cooperative Extension service Horticulture agent. She referred me to a fruit tree specialist. That specialist said that as the trees grew, their root systems spread out, and discovered the nitrogen leaching from the chicken coops, which caused the fruit wood to grow fast but weak. Their recommendation was to prune HARD. I was told to remove 80% of each tree. [normally when pruning you NEVER remove any more than 20% from each tree]. The idea was that as the trees re-grew, the wood will be stronger.
I followed their advice, and my trees died.
That is crazy to remove that much. I have always used 30% as a max rule. I could see chicken coops being a problem. Thanks for the reply.
When we planted this orchard, we knew that it would take ten years for the trees to mature. So we built small chicken coops between them.
Then as the trees began producing, the limbs were weak and they had a tendency to break and split each tree in half. I contacted our Cooperative Extension service Horticulture agent. She referred me to a fruit tree specialist. That specialist said that as the trees grew, their root systems spread out, and discovered the nitrogen leaching from the chicken coops, which caused the fruit wood to grow fast but weak. Their recommendation was to prune HARD. I was told to remove 80% of each tree. [normally when pruning you NEVER remove any more than 20% from each tree]. The idea was that as the trees re-grew, the wood will be stronger.
I followed their advice, and my trees died.
I am not sure the chicken coops were to blame, since I have seen a similar thing happen, where no _extra_ nitrogen was involved. The rest, I agree with.
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We have a 7kW generator that can run for over a week on propane (we've done 5.5 days) and we have our own on-site water source plus plenty of game. But come to think of it, I'm not sure how long "plenty of game" would last once everyone else in my area had to hunt for food.
My plans are to stretch generator run time, by only running it a couple hours, two or three times a day. Not sure how much that would save you, but I expect it to more than double my endurance.
"Everyone" hunting out the food supply is why I say that you need to be somewhere with less than 300 people per square mile. Even at 300, things are iffy, but most of them will die from other things in less than a year, so that means more food available for the rest.
I don't have iodine pills, or gas masks with weeks of oxygen supplies, & have no underground shelter w/ air filtration system here in Florida, so I'm unprepared for a nuclear strike.
Prepared for what, exactly?
The Second Coming? I believe so, but of course none of know when that's going to happen.
Every fall I prepare a bit for winter, by filling the cupboards with enough canned/shelf-stable food to get me through a snowstorm that might shut down the roads and the stores. I keep the flashlights where i can find them in the dark, and plug in my phone when I go to bed at night and keep it charged the rest of the time. And we don't get snow here every year, at least not enough to close the roads or lose electricity.
Prepared for what, exactly?
The Second Coming? I believe so, but of course none of know when that's going to happen.
Every fall I prepare a bit for winter, by filling the cupboards with enough canned/shelf-stable food to get me through a snowstorm that might shut down the roads and the stores. I keep the flashlights where i can find them in the dark, and plug in my phone when I go to bed at night and keep it charged the rest of the time. And we don't get snow here every year, at least not enough to close the roads or lose electricity.
that pretty much how we all began preparing for local events.
"Everyone" hunting out the food supply is why I say that you need to be somewhere with less than 300 people per square mile. Even at 300, things are iffy, but most of them will die from other things in less than a year, so that means more food available for the rest.
It's said that hunter/gatheres need 2 sq mi to support each person...Even with abiity to grow a good chunk of your food, hunting will be only an occasional supplement.
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Due to medical conditions, if cut off from re-supply, the prognosis is terminal.
BigPaul is right-- only a couple meds "keep you alive"-- insulin requiring DM and hypothyroidism are two that come to mind that will need a continuing source of meds....If you have conditions like CHF, CAD etc that are so bad you can;t live without the meds, then you're FC IV and are terminal anyways.
I saw this coming over a decade ago-- our reliance on China for meds is a security risk, and docs/govt med financing are criminally myopic, not allowing a pt to build up a supply that will last a couple years. China has us by the short ones...and add in their plan to actively murder our youth via Fentanyl. You don't have to be named Sherlock to figure it out.
a lot of medical conditions will cease once TSHTF, all the activity we will need to do to survive will make us fitter and leaner, those that cannot do those activities are the ones that wont survive.
as for hunting, even the best hunter can have off days, setting traps saves a lot of time, time that can be used to forage, fish and grow our own food.
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