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hmmm...something must be wrong with the forum software; I thought I clicked on a thread about communications, but this seems to be about looters and what they will be targeting in the aftermath of a disaster.
Smoke signals would still work: too conspicuous if one is hiding though
I wouldn’t want to communicate; if able - just to listen.
A solar charger and a cheap fm radio should do?
If using 2 way radio I suggest do not use voice; agree on some inconspicuous sounds as your codes:”here is bad, coming to your location”, “come over here if you can”, add a few distress signal codes as the sound of nature or just some odd noise makers: 2 sticks rubbed together or 2 metal pieces, duck calls - low or loud could have a different meaning, or use the same sound but with the different meaning at dawn - meaning all is bad , or sunset all is good - just brainstorming here
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hmmm...something must be wrong with the forum software; I thought I clicked on a thread about communications, but this seems to be about looters and what they will be targeting in the aftermath of a disaster.
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Originally Posted by bigpaul
hospitals have pharmacies too, do you think the looters dont know that?
Generally, around here, hospitals have better security, and looters go after easy targets.
But, GuyInSD is right, this looting stuff is off topic.
Done.
Smoke signals would still work: too conspicuous if one is hiding though
I wouldn’t want to communicate; if able - just to listen.
A solar charger and a cheap fm radio should do?
Well, listening is more important than talking. And sometimes it might be as easy as an FM radio.
AM is better, if there isn't a lot of interference from natural (lightning) or unnatural (EMP's would echo for days) sources on AM. SW/SSB or digital is the best, but there is cost, and a learning curve.
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If using 2 way radio I suggest do not use voice; agree on some inconspicuous sounds as your codes:”here is bad, coming to your location”, “come over here if you can”, add a few distress signal codes as the sound of nature or just some odd noise makers: 2 sticks rubbed together or 2 metal pieces, duck calls - low or loud could have a different meaning, or use the same sound but with the different meaning at dawn - meaning all is bad , or sunset all is good - just brainstorming here
Brevity codes are more important than secret codes. It is important to get the point across in as little time as possible, with as little chance of misunderstanding as possible. (These are somewhat advanced ideas.)
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Originally Posted by bigpaul
radio's can be tracked, If the Nazis could do it in WW2 I'm sure its possible now.
best to keep shtum.
There are ways to impeded tracking, but that is a more advanced subject, and we don't even know if he wants to talk, or just listen.
I figure it is best to cover the basics, first.
Then the more advanced stuff.
I'm guessing your comment was made in jest, but here "racing pigeons" are a thing. They drive them far away or even fly them to a different island and wagers are placed on who's pigeon returns home first. The infrastructure is already in place... all is needed is to repurpose the birds for carrying messages instead of solely for gambling. They could still bet on them...
I'm guessing your comment was made in jest, but here "racing pigeons" are a thing. They drive them far away or even fly them to a different island and wagers are placed on who's pigeon returns home first. The infrastructure is already in place... all is needed is to repurpose the birds for carrying messages instead of solely for gambling. They could still bet on them...
To be truly practical, I think you need one that will travel back and forth between two locations.
Unfortunately, pigeons are one-way communication only, but the pigeon networks could be surprisingly complex. The first organized network of pigeon messengers is believed to have been established around the 5th Century BC. The network would have required the pigeons themselves to be transported throughout the network, slowly, by people, away from their "home" node. Probably along with other goods using established trade/transportation routes. Pigeon networks functioned similarly to how data travels on the internet with packets of information sometimes going from node to node and pigeon to pigeon until it was routed to it's final destination. One pigeon could carry multiple short messages with different origins and final destinations during it's particular flight, though important messages were usually sent in duplicate or triplicate. (Predators, bad weather, illness etc sometimes took it's toll on the messengers). While the pigeons themselves only "home" in one direction, the networks were constantly transiting pigeons, so two-way pigeon communication was possible using different birds, in some cases many different birds.
In the early Olympic games athletes would bring pigeons from their home towns and the birds would deliver the news of victory (or defeat) soon after the event. In modern times they frequently release pigeons, symbolically, during the opening and/or closing ceremonies. They were the only high-speed long distance communication used continuously for thousands of years, falling out of favor after the telegraph was invented.
I don't know if anybody knows how many pigeons were used in this manner, but it's estimated that the British used over a million pigeons during the 2 world wars.
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