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Old 02-20-2018, 04:14 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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I would refuse to grant you permission to delegate any homeroom responsibilities to other faculty members, also. However, the day has not dawned that I would force a student to kneel on the ground so I could measure their skirt, nor will that day ever dawn. I would have to quit or they would have to fire me, contract be damned. It is reminiscent of some sicko's fantasy naughty schoolgirl porn scene. I don't know who came up with this little gem of a method but I am more than a little concerned that they have authoritative access to adolescent children.

Look, you have to do what is palatable to you, but the fact of the matter is that if you want to continue working there you either need to perform your duties or flat out refuse on moral objections. Either what they are doing is wrong, and no one should be doing it, or it is okay and you are just as obligated to fulfill your duties as any other teacher. Your administrator has made their feelings on the subject clear. Personally, I would be job hunting.
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Old 02-20-2018, 04:10 PM
 
Location: USA
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Good for her.

If they are "obviously high," why bother to measure?

What is the penalty if a skirt is too short at your school? Next time, just do that.
Regardless of whether a student's skirt obviously appears out of code or is a close call, the purpose of measuring is to remove subjectivity and bias from enforcement. The slips we fill out require three objective measurements taken with a ruler from the floor to the hem – a side-skirt measurement on each side, and a back-side measurement.

A top copy is sent with the student to the office, and a bottom copy stays in the teacher’s binder.

I would prefer to just send a student to the office and let the office deal with it, but that would reflect poorly on me for not preparing the documentation they expect me to send with the student.

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If you cannot get past this awkwardness, you will not be a successful teacher at this school. Are there other non-parochial schools in your area where you could apply?
I'm trying to work past the awkwardness. My goal it to be successful here.
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Old 02-20-2018, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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Regardless of whether a student's skirt obviously appears out of code or is a close call, the purpose of measuring is to remove subjectivity and bias from enforcement. The slips we fill out require three objective measurements taken with a ruler from the floor to the hem – a side-skirt measurement on each side, and a back-side measurement.

A top copy is sent with the student to the office, and a bottom copy stays in the teacher’s binder.

I would prefer to just send a student to the office and let the office deal with it, but that would reflect poorly on me for not preparing the documentation they expect me to send with the student.
You know, back in the day when nuns were the ones doing the measuring this was not such a prickly issue. I would venture a guess that the policy hasn't been changed since WWII.

This should not be a recurring problem. If a skirt is too short, it should only have to be measured ONCE, and then she should get it fixed. She should not be coming back in with a short skirt on.

If you're going to insist on carrying out this sadistic production, you need a workaround, such as a yard stick, so you can take an equivalent measurement without making them kneel.
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Old 03-31-2018, 08:33 PM
 
Location: Fairfield, CT
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I went to a private school that had a dress code. I had to wear dress pants, dress shoes, a jacket and tie.

We used to push the envelope on the dress code in various ways. Instead of a dress shirt, I sometimes wore a flannel shirt, and nobody complained. Sometimes my pants pushed the limit a bit, but never went over the line the way jeans would have.

My most egregious dress code violation was to sometimes wear sneakers. There was some latitude on shoes, but sneakers were over the line. Sometimes when I had gym class, I kept my sneakers on for the rest of the day. The teachers I had didn't seem to notice or care. But a few times, the dean of discipline spotted me in the hall wearing sneakers, and when he did, he always gave me detention. He wasn't too concerned about being tactful.
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