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Old 02-19-2018, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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I have no problem with metal detectors, but they're not going to keep out a school shooter "with a backpack full of weapons".
I agree, but I do have a problem with it, for exactly that reason. It would be a waste of money. Even if they could have good enough security to keep a shooter out of the school, what would prevent the attack from happening outside the secured area? An attack outside the school could be just as deadly as an attack inside. There is only one solution to the problem, and I think everybody knows what it is.
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Old 02-19-2018, 08:21 PM
 
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A school I worked at as a long term sub had a metal detector and all the bag equipment, it was donated by the local airport when they updated to new equipment. They don't use it very often, but it's stored in an empty section of the cafeteria and wheeled across the building to the main entrance when used. About 6 years ago there was a "threat" scribbled on bathroom walls for a certain date, more than half of the 1600 kids stayed home. They used the metal detectors and the full baggage screeners that day and it took an hour and a half extra ... and that was just half the school!
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Old 02-19-2018, 08:40 PM
 
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What is the profile of this typical high school?
Typical was probably not the best word choice. Haven't the majority of the schools which have experienced a mass shooting been suburban schools? I think a few have been rural. I don't recall any in the inner city, do you?
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Old 02-19-2018, 09:46 PM
 
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I wonder if Michael Chertoff is involved??
https://www.thenewamerican.com/econo...-body-scanners
Perhaps another Line of Business "Demand Creation strategy?
https://thegovernmentrag.wordpress.c...ion-las-vegas/
Cue the twilight zone theme music.....
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Old 02-19-2018, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I agree, but I do have a problem with it, for exactly that reason. It would be a waste of money. Even if they could have good enough security to keep a shooter out of the school, what would prevent the attack from happening outside the secured area? An attack outside the school could be just as deadly as an attack inside. ...
Yup. PE classes outside...a perfect target. In some secondary schools students moving from the main building to temporary classrooms...a perfect target.

And I kinda lived through that. Remember the 2 snipers in D.C. area a few years ago. Although I wasn't told this at the time, police searched the woods around the back of our school every morning before arrivals, and every afternoon before dismissals.
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Old 02-20-2018, 01:26 AM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Yup. PE classes outside...a perfect target. In some secondary schools students moving from the main building to temporary classrooms...a perfect target.

And I kinda lived through that. Remember the 2 snipers in D.C. area a few years ago. Although I wasn't told this at the time, police searched the woods around the back of our school every morning before arrivals, and every afternoon before dismissals.
I guess the plan would be to make schools look like armed prison camps surrounded with tall walls, topped with razor wire, and guard towers, with armed guards to keep anyone from getting into the school. At dismissal time each school bus would leave escorted by its own SWAT team. Then the kids would be dropped off in a violent lawless society that we have become.

School security is just a smoke screen like mental health to divert attention from the real problem.
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Old 02-20-2018, 12:18 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I guess the plan would be to make schools look like armed prison camps surrounded with tall walls, topped with razor wire, and guard towers, with armed guards to keep anyone from getting into the school. At dismissal time each school bus would leave escorted by its own SWAT team. Then the kids would be dropped off in a violent lawless society that we have become.

School security is just a smoke screen like mental health to divert attention from the real problem.
Just a tad bit of hyperbole there.

School security should be taken seriously. But it also has to be practical, and it will cost money.
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Old 02-20-2018, 12:51 PM
 
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Typical was probably not the best word choice. Haven't the majority of the schools which have experienced a mass shooting been suburban schools? I think a few have been rural. I don't recall any in the inner city, do you?
They've all been in VERY affluent, suburban areas. Interesting, isn't it. Parkland is a VERY wealthy community. Sandy Hook was a wealthy community. Columbine was a .... well, you get the picture.

Never inner city, never poor and mostly white.
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Old 02-20-2018, 06:02 PM
 
Location: Oregon, formerly Texas
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They've all been in VERY affluent, suburban areas. Interesting, isn't it. Parkland is a VERY wealthy community. Sandy Hook was a wealthy community. Columbine was a .... well, you get the picture.

Never inner city, never poor and mostly white.
It makes sense in a way. The inner city and poor districts already deal with violence in a number of ways that doesn't make the news at all.

When bad things happen to pretty, affluent people, the media and public tend to care more.
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Old 02-20-2018, 08:49 PM
 
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It makes sense in a way. The inner city and poor districts already deal with violence in a number of ways that doesn't make the news at all.

When bad things happen to pretty, affluent people, the media and public tend to care more.
Which brings me to the next point ... how many of these people do these things just to get a rise on social media / go viral? I'd bet that's part of the thrill as of late...sickening.
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