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Old 04-07-2019, 01:19 PM
 
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in terms of opportunity, pay, general living, COL, etc.?
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Old 04-07-2019, 01:25 PM
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in terms of opportunity, pay, general living, COL, etc.?
Vermont. Relatively low cost of living, and high salary.
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Old 04-07-2019, 01:46 PM
 
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I hear good number comparisons for PA.
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Old 04-07-2019, 02:55 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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From last summer - it might surprise you.

https://www.edsurge.com/news/2017-06...o-the-furthest
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Old 04-07-2019, 07:50 PM
 
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Northern Virginia -- Fairfax, Arlington. And over the river, Montgomery County, Maryland. COL is high, but so is pay and benefits.
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Old 04-08-2019, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Sioux Falls, SD area
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From last summer - it might surprise you.

https://www.edsurge.com/news/2017-06...o-the-furthest
Actually, this doesn't surprise me much as far as the ranking.

The figures are from 2016 so they're slightly outdated. I'm happy to say that my state of South Dakota has made some major changes to teacher pay since then and has moved up from 50th to the mid 40's. Our cost of living figures on the chart in comparison to other states I can tell you are totally incorrect though. I wonder where they got that. No state income tax, extremely low cost for owning autos and trucks, no tax on Social Security benefits, extremely low cost of housing (Sioux Falls being an exception). I'm sure the cost of living figures is somehow skewed by the reservations which is controlled by the reservations themselves AND the federal government.

Seeing Illinois' high ranking makes me wonder where it will be when that state eventually has to completely restructure themselves due to their bankrupt future pension commitments.
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Old 04-09-2019, 07:40 PM
 
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Ohio being in the top 5 is misleading. For every suburb outside Columbus, Cincinnati and Cleveland that starts out paying their teachers 40k there are plenty of small / rural communities that still only top out at 30k in 2019 for first year teachers. Plus Ohio restructured their retirement system even before this report was put together and eliminated many things that once played in a huge rule in Ohio teachers never leaving their jobs and few jobs opening up only so often. Ohio will probably fall out of the top 10 if you did this study in 2019. Many districts in Ohio also have not had pay raises in the last few years. Grant it housing prices in Ohio can be reasonable if not a steal in some places.

Where I teach, South Carolina is probably pretty accurate. Housing costs and overall COL down here has gotten out of control. Even with 3% raises every few years to try to keep up with the rate of inflation its nearly impossible for teachers to afford adequate housing down here.

Someone in NC is lying. No way NC is ranked what they are ranked even if it is 2016 data with all that's been going on in Raleigh these last 12 months.
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Old 04-11-2019, 12:15 AM
 
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Be wary of states that don't pay social security.
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Old 04-11-2019, 05:07 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Be wary of states that don't pay social security.
I'm not sure I would say be "wary", but I agree...it is VERY important to consider this since state retirement systems are often more shaky than the federal system.
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Old 04-11-2019, 06:41 AM
 
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I'm not sure I would say be "wary", but I agree...it is VERY important to consider this since state retirement systems are often more shaky than the federal system.
Not only is it more shaky but if you are a teacher who moves around it creates a nightmare come retirement time. My social security is reduced by a dollar for every two dollars I get from my Kentucky retirement. The scary thing is that if they fail there is no safety net.

The idiot running Kentucky right now wants to move to something like the Virginia hybrid system but still not provide Social Security.
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